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There's a TV channel here that plays westerns all afternoon. I've been know to watch on occasion. Sometimes I think man this really holds up and is good. Other times I shake my head and think, damn this was on primetime?

I've only found a few that I enjoy. Funny thing, I saw the same Mexican actress on The Big Valley one week and then on The High Chaparral a couple weeks later. The Big Valley is sort of a Bonanza knockoff but different enough to be enjoyable.
 
Finished first season of Madoka Magica. Its a wonderful mindfuck, the way I like my anime. Takes the Sailor Moon - type scenario, and then deconstructs it hard.
 
Madoka is great.

Finishing watching Salem, full of ridiculously over the top melodrama, gore and craziness. It definitely goes places I wouldn't have expected a TV show originally produced for WGN to go. Incest, child death, literal blood baths, penises removed and replaced with birds, etc. The witchcraft in the series is very physical and grotesque, witches eat people's eyes to gain their sight, animals inserted into other animals to create magical talismans, etc.
 
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I'll second Burn Notice; an excellent show, though it gets sappy towards the end.
Yeah, the last season or two became too soap operatic for me. Before that it was a fun scheme-of-the-week with overarching subplots but you could still miss a few or watch out of order with no problems.
 
Watched the first 6 episodes of The Tick. Not bad, overall. Much better than the Warburton series. But not as madcap fun as the cartoon.
Haven't seen it...the commercials I saw didn't look great. What makes it better?
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Haven't seen it...the commercials I saw didn't look great. What makes it better?

Better writing, Tick is more in character (though I still wish they had covered up his eyes), the villains are pretty interesting, and its more of a character study of Arthur than anything. Found the humour more palatable overall, as well. The Warburton series had that kind of "superhero sitcom" vibe. The Amazon series is very much not a sitcom.
 
I watched the first Tick episode and didn't much care for it, it seemed more straight superhero than I'd expect.
I did really like the comic, cartoon, and previous live-action incarnation though.
 
I watched the first Tick episode and didn't much care for it, it seemed more straight superhero than I'd expect.
I did really like the comic, cartoon, and previous live-action incarnation though.

I liked the Warburton/Vassey/etc. TV series but never liked the comics.
 
Oh great and mighty pub! Sometime in the 2000's a sci-fi show was made involving a crew on a deralict mega ship as I recall. The name is escaping me at the moment and I'd like to find it. Anyone have a suggestion?
 
Oh great and mighty pub! Sometime in the 2000's a sci-fi show was made involving a crew on a deralict mega ship as I recall. The name is escaping me at the moment and I'd like to find it. Anyone have a suggestion?

Stargate Universe.
 
Valentine's Day is tomorrow, and if you're anything like me (and I know some deep, hidden, sick and demented part of you is), you're a hopeless romantic. :heart:

I usually start my February out by launching myself into the streets of The Big CIty, giving random strangers hugs and throwing chocolates at them. Eventually the poleese are called, and they're like, "Do you have any ID?" And I'm like, "Yeah, but I left it on your mom's nightstand last night."

Then I run. Fifteen minutes later, they've chased me down, tased me, and put me in handcuffs. Then they're like, "Why did you run?" I reply with, "'Cause that's what Tupac would do!"

Then they throw me in County, and the bangers are like:

Bangers: "We're gonna take your stuff."
Me: "That's cool."
Bangers: "Then we're gonna rape you!"
Me: "Sweet!"
Bangers: "Then you're going to work for us as a drug mule!"
Me: "Now hold on. I'll make you guys some Grade-A hooch, but that's as far as this is going to go."
Bangers: "You had us at hooch!"

So I'm stuck there for weeks until I finally get in front of a judge. He asked me why Iwas throwing chocolates at people and I tell him, "I did it for love, judge!"

And the judge is like, "You're free to go, noman, and God bless you!"

Then we all hug: I hug the judge, the bailiffs, the cop who I made fun of, and the cop's mom (who returns my ID). And then I came home to write this post.

Which brings me to the actual point of this post: romance anime!

What? You thought I was all about Dark, Death, and Grim anime, with death, dark, and more dark? Also crazy chicks with guns and baddasses who fail to protect the lolis they're sworn to defend? Nope. I love it all, and I like a good romcom as much as anybody.

A few notes before I get into this:

I picked these because:
  • Of their good, overall quality.
  • There's no real fanservice (IIRC), meaning no ridiculous boob physics (okay, there's that one character in Chi No Maid, but that's mostly comedy), or too much ecchi, or anything like that. The focus is mostly slice-of-life + romance, with little to none of the usual harem or ecchi tropes found in anime.
  • If I had middleschool or highschool kids, I'd feel comfortable watching these with them.

Anyway, on to the shows:

Love, Chunibyo and Other Delusions



A high-school romance. You'll see a lot of these here, because, well, anime.

LCAOD has an interesting setup: students who become trapped in their own fantasy worlds, and refuse to deal with reality, referred to as chunibyo patients. The male protagonist (MP) is a reformed chunibyo, and is trying to escape his embarrassing past. The female protagonist (FP) is an active chunibyo. They meet, get involved, and hilarity ensues.

It's a sweet, fun little anime with a simple, heart-warming message: reality sucks; fantasy is better.

Recommended.

Toradora!



Another high-school romance. Scary-looking-but-actually-nice-guy MP meets troubled, hyper-aggressive yandere FP, and the two conspire to date their respective crushes while slowly falling for each other.

I didn't go into this with high expectations, but this anime hooked me by the second episode. All of the characters are interesting, the female characters aren't all useless (one of my major complaints about most anime), the pacing for the romantic elements was well done, and it was both heartbreaking and fun at the same time.

It features one of the best cat fights I've seen in anime, as well as teenage boys constantly crying about their crushes (which, like, I never did when I was sixteen...or twenty...or thirty...and that video is fake and you shut up!).

Recommended.

Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid



Not a high-school romance! Whoohoo!

Drunken salarywoman FP somehow stumbles upon a wounded dragon, makes friends with her, and uses the power of FP + alcoholism to somehow pull a massive sword out of the dragons' hide. Dragon is so grateful, she decides the best way to pay this debt is, not with arcane lore or treasure, but by becoming the FP's maid. Because anime!

It's cute, sweet, and utterly hilarious. One of the few anime that came out of 2017 that was worth watching.

Highly recommended.

Spice and Wolf



My favorite romance anime of all time, and one of my favorite anime overall.

Set in fantasy Late Middle Ages, the MP is a traveling merchant (not a highschool kid, not a ninja, not a mutant, not a badass, just a really good, small-time businessman) and runs across a wolf goddess. He agrees to take her to her home town, located far to the north, and the two travel together.

Conflict in this anime takes two forms: romantic conflicts and business conflicts. The first are self-explanatory. The second involves the MP constantly getting in over his head, being on the verge of losing everything, and then thinking a way out of it at the last moment. All business related, and far more stressful to watch than any anime combat scene I've seen.

The only real downside is the series ends after two season, on a cliffhanger. There's unlikely to be additional seasons, though this anime certainly deserved it.

An excellent anime. Highly recommended.
 
The only Japanese cartoons I've liked so far have been Area 88 and the semi-Japanese Robotech (first part only).
 
The only Japanese cartoons I've liked so far have been Area 88 and the semi-Japanese Robotech (first part only).

I've got a couple of recommendation posts upthread, as well as random commentary, if you're interested. Anime's a mixed bag, with some of it meant for teens, some it it very much not, some of it being crap, and some of it being excellent.
 
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You need help. :grin:
Valentine's Day is tomorrow, and if you're anything like me (and I know some deep, hidden, sick and demented part of you is), you're a hopeless romantic. :heart:

I usually start my February out by launching myself into the streets of The Big CIty, giving random strangers hugs and throwing chocolates at them. Eventually the poleese are called, and they're like, "Do you have any ID?" And I'm like, "Yeah, but I left it on your mom's nightstand last night."

Then I run. Fifteen minutes later, they've chased me down, tased me, and put me in handcuffs. Then they're like, "Why did you run?" I reply with, "'Cause that's what Tupac would do!"

Then they throw me in County, and the bangers are like:

Bangers: "We're gonna take your stuff."
Me: "That's cool."
Bangers: "Then we're gonna rape you!"
Me: "Sweet!"
Bangers: "Then you're going to work for us as a drug mule!"
Me: "Now hold on. I'll make you guys some Grade-A hooch, but that's as far as this is going to go."
Bangers: "You had us at hooch!"

So I'm stuck there for weeks until I finally get in front of a judge. He asked me why Iwas throwing chocolates at people and I tell him, "I did it for love, judge!"

And the judge is like, "You're free to go, noman, and God bless you!"

Then we all hug: I hug the judge, the bailiffs, the cop who I made fun of, and the cop's mom (who returns my ID). And then I came home to write this post.

Which brings me to the actual point of this post: romance anime!

What? You thought I was all about Dark, Death, and Grim anime, with death, dark, and more dark? Also crazy chicks with guns and baddasses who fail to protect the lolis they're sworn to defend? Nope. I love it all, and I like a good romcom as much as anybody.

A few notes before I get into this:

I picked these because:
  • Of their good, overall quality.
  • There's no real fanservice (IIRC), meaning no ridiculous boob physics (okay, there's that one character in Chi No Maid, but that's mostly comedy), or too much ecchi, or anything like that. The focus is mostly slice-of-life + romance, with little to none of the usual harem or ecchi tropes found in anime.
  • If I had middleschool or highschool kids, I'd feel comfortable watching these with them.

Anyway, on to the shows:

Love, Chunibyo and Other Delusions



A high-school romance. You'll see a lot of these here, because, well, anime.

LCAOD has an interesting setup: students who become trapped in their own fantasy worlds, and refuse to deal with reality, referred to as chunibyo patients. The male protagonist (MP) is a reformed chunibyo, and is trying to escape his embarrassing past. The female protagonist (FP) is an active chunibyo. They meet, get involved, and hilarity ensues.

It's a sweet, fun little anime with a simple, heart-warming message: reality sucks; fantasy is better.

Recommended.

Toradora!



Another high-school romance. Scary-looking-but-actually-nice-guy MP meets troubled, hyper-aggressive yandere FP, and the two conspire to date their respective crushes while slowly falling for each other.

I didn't go into this with high expectations, but this anime hooked me by the second episode. All of the characters are interesting, the female characters aren't all useless (one of my major complaints about most anime), the pacing for the romantic elements was well done, and it was both heartbreaking and fun at the same time.

It features one of the best cat fights I've seen in anime, as well as teenage boys constantly crying about their crushes (which, like, I never did when I was sixteen...or twenty...or thirty...and that video is fake and you shut up!).

Recommended.

Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid



Not a high-school romance! Whoohoo!

Drunken salarywoman FP somehow stumbles upon a wounded dragon, makes friends with her, and uses the power of FP + alcoholism to somehow pull a massive sword out of the dragons' hide. Dragon is so grateful, she decides the best way to pay this debt is, not with arcane lore or treasure, but by becoming the FP's maid. Because anime!

It's cute, sweet, and utterly hilarious. One of the few anime that came out of 2017 that was worth watching.

Highly recommended.

Spice and Wolf



My favorite romance anime of all time, and one of my favorite anime overall.

Set in fantasy Late Middle Ages, the MP is a traveling merchant (not a highschool kid, not a ninja, not a mutant, not a badass, just a really good, small-time businessman) and runs across a wolf goddess. He agrees to take her to her home town, located far to the north, and the two travel together.

Conflict in this anime takes two forms: romantic conflicts and business conflicts. The first are self-explanatory. The second involves the MP constantly getting in over his head, being on the verge of losing everything, and then thinking a way out of it at the last moment. All business related, and far more stressful to watch than any anime combat scene I've seen.

The only real downside is the series ends after two season, on a cliffhanger. There's unlikely to be additional seasons, though this anime certainly deserved it.

An excellent anime. Highly recommended.
 
You need help. :grin:

I'm not psychotic so much as I've transcended the boundaries of human consensus reality.

At least, that's what one of the voices in my head keeps telling me.
 
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I'm not psychotic so much as I've transcended the boundaries of human consensus reality.

At least, that's what one of the voices in my head keeps telling me.

To be fair, "human consensus reality" cannot possibly be a good thing.
 
If anyone is wondering why I post more about anime on this thread than I do American TV...

When Hollywood does vampire fights:



When anime does vampire fights:

 
Somebody on Polygon claimed Devilman Crybaby was a 'masterpiece.' I guess watching decades of anime have inured them to the shitty tropes that drag down so much anime for me. The ultraviolence and sex are not an issue, the rampant stupidity and juvenile sense of humour between the outbursts of violence was and prevented it from being even amusing trash for me. That this is the same guy who made the terrific Cat Soup is really depressing.

I finally got around to watching Devilman Crybaby. My opinion:

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It has the worst opening music I've ever heard in anime.

The art tries to be different to the point of being unappealing. Ajin's distinct art style didn't bother me as much as this, and Anjin compensated by being an excellent anime.

The plot is unremarkable.

The characters are unremarkable.

The twist was predictable. I didn't see the twist in Kill la Kill coming, but I saw the twist for DMC coming from a mile away.

It's a tragedy, which I usually don't like. If you're feeling a little too cheerful towards your fellow man, and want to stop feeling that, then this anime is for you.

I suspected I knew what all of the hype was about, and turns out I was right. I submit to you, my friends, that all of the hype about this anime is due to one thing and one thing only:

Bewbs.

Late night Cinemax-style nudity and death-fetish eroticism injected into a mediocre plot and standard shonen tropes isn't a masterpiece. It's just lazy writing.

If you happen to be curious, but don't really want to watch the anime, here's some spoilers:

Nice-guy highschool loser MC gains super demon powers that allow him to run faster, eat a lot of food, and have super-powered wet dreams. :argh:

Demon-powered MC joins with Old Childhood Friend (OCF) that's in no way a villain, really, to kill demons.

They kill some demons. MC rapes one at some point.

OCF turns out to be villain, exposes demons to the world.

World goes insane.

OCF/Villain is actual the Devil, just with memory loss, and wants to do something, something, nothing matters what's my motivation again, something love and suffering.

Everyone dies. Except Satan. But he feels bad about it, so...art.

God destroys all life on earth with a meteor storm.

The end.

You're welcome. I just saved your several hours of relentless derp.
 
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My Part-Time Gods campaign is based loosely on anime highschool tropes. Understand that I did the HS thing back in the 80s, have no kids, and don't associate with juveniles of any kind, so I have no idea what actual HSs are like these days. My setting is based solely on anime.

My players seem fine with my setting so far, but I asked them how I could flesh it out a little. They suggested watching some supernatural shows set in highschools.

And that, my friends, is how I got suckered into watching Vampire Diaries. :sad:

It's...okay. It is, at the very least, hilariously funny. :grin:

"I'm stuck looking like a 17 year old forever!"

And by 17 year old, you mean a very tired looking 22?

I'm in the middle of the first season, and I haven't lost my mind or ragequit yet, so that's hopeful.

It's been beneficial though. For my game. For now on, all of my major NPCs are going to openly discuss extremely dangerous, sensitive information while in crowded, public areas such as coffee shops, bars, or in the middle of a school festival. :quiet:
 
My mind was blown by this exchange on Kotaku about Devilman Crybaby. This is why I don't trust the consensus of anime fandom.

Read it. They touch on the slash and identity-pol elements in the anime which I deliberately didn't mention or comment on, but certainly was part of the show's hype with American audiences. :fu:

But I agree: I don't listen to nor trust the hypemachine these days, though I do follow Nux Taku on youtube, as we seem to have similar tastes in most cases. He wasn't thrilled with DMC either.
 
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Watched the first episode of Twin Peaks: The Return tonight and Lynch wastes no time jumping head first into the WTF?

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I am very fond of Black Lightning so far. Having a more mature hero who has to deal with bratty teenage daughters and a high-responsibility day job is a nice change of pace. Plus, electric powers is just TOO COOL! :grin:

I'm even warming to the villain, for all that he's all sorts of goofy. He's got his own issues that he's dealing with, and it's kind of funny how he's in practice a sort of beleaguer middle-management type dealing with incompetent underlings and bosses who blame him for everything that goes wrong.
 
Been watching Overlord, anime series I never heard of, don't think its gotten much attention (but I don't run in those circles).

Premise is there is a massive VR-style fantasy MMORPG thats been going for a while, but is about to get shut down. One player, who was part of a guild of players playing a sort of fantasy-version of a league of supervillains, is puttering away in the game on the last day, fucking aaround with coding, but mainly reminiscing on all the great time he had with friends. The guy is obviously a geeky, socially akward shut-in, and it was his friends in the game that made up his social life. The servers for the game shut down and...

he's trapped in the game as his character. Not the most original premise, lots of series like that, but this goes in a way different direction. His game character and the NPC "henchmen" that his group programmed in the course of the game are transported to an entirely different, real fantasy world. But all of the powers he acquired during his time playing the character in the game are still there. He's basically a god-like, all powerful Lich, in a world that has no concept of his level of abilities.

And he decides to continue to play the part. He's basically been turned into a supervillain, let loose onto a pseudo-medieval world, and makes plans to take it over.

Its not a deep show. The animation is at best "standard," nothing special there. But its highly entertaining to watch this guy show up in a fantasy world like Reverse-Superman and just blow everyone's mind while he awkwardly plays this role. Like if you were watching Skeletor, but interposed with his villainous monologues and plots is this voiceover of his thoughts as a geeky adolescent who has no idea what is going on so is just falling bacck to treating life like the videogames he knew.
 
Been watching Overlord, anime series I never heard of, don't think its gotten much attention (but I don't run in those circles).

Premise is there is a massive VR-style fantasy MMORPG thats been going for a while, but is about to get shut down. One player, who was part of a guild of players playing a sort of fantasy-version of a league of supervillains, is puttering away in the game on the last day, fucking aaround with coding, but mainly reminiscing on all the great time he had with friends. The guy is obviously a geeky, socially akward shut-in, and it was his friends in the game that made up his social life. The servers for the game shut down and...

he's trapped in the game as his character. Not the most original premise, lots of series like that, but this goes in a way different direction. His game character and the NPC "henchmen" that his group programmed in the course of the game are transported to an entirely different, real fantasy world. But all of the powers he acquired during his time playing the character in the game are still there. He's basically a god-like, all powerful Lich, in a world that has no concept of his level of abilities.

And he decides to continue to play the part. He's basically been turned into a supervillain, let loose onto a pseudo-medieval world, and makes plans to take it over.

Its not a deep show. The animation is at best "standard," nothing special there. But its highly entertaining to watch this guy show up in a fantasy world like Reverse-Superman and just blow everyone's mind while he awkwardly plays this role. Like if you were watching Skeletor, but interposed with his villainous monologues and plots is this voiceover of his thoughts as a geeky adolescent who has no idea what is going on so is just falling bacck to treating life like the videogames he knew.

Overlord is one of my favs. There are quite a few anime of this genre (MC gets trapped/transported into a game world or gamelike fantasy world). They range from terrible, to loved/hated (SAO), to good (Overlord and Log Horizon), to amazing (Konosuba).

I like anime which have a lot of scheming, politics, and intrigue. Overlord has this in spades (as does Log Horizon, which has the most glasses flashes in all of anime). What's interesting to me about Overlord is the MC, unlike other anime of its genre, is OPAF, but does it in a way that doesn't spoil the story, unlike the other OPAF MC of this genre (Kirito from SAO). This is noteworthy to me because most writers seem to stumble and fall once a MC becomes 'too' powerful. Overlord pulls it off, however, and keeps things intersting despite itself.

I'm watching the 2nd season now, and well, apparently I have to get through the first three episodes of lizardman romance before I even get to see the actual characters from the first season. Whatevs
 
I don't mind a slow pace, it is all part of Lynch's determination to unsettle the viewer. I'm glad to see him let loose, he's always at his best when he's not trying to be conventional.

I love his stuff, and I think this is one of his masterpieces, but he really taunts the audience in this show. If you can handle it, you're well rewarded. I've just seen so many complaints levied at the show over Lynch dragging things out, that the comment struck me as particularly ironic.
 
Overlord is one of my favs. There are quite a few anime of this genre (MC gets trapped/transported into a game world or gamelike fantasy world). They range from terrible, to loved/hated (SAO), to good (Overlord and Log Horizon), to amazing (Konosuba).

I like anime which have a lot of scheming, politics, and intrigue. Overlord has this in spades (as does Log Horizon, which has the most glasses flashes in all of anime). What's interesting to me about Overlord is the MC, unlike other anime of its genre, is OPAF, but does it in a way that doesn't spoil the story, unlike the other OPAF MC of this genre (Kirito from SAO). This is noteworthy to me because most writers seem to stumble and fall once a MC becomes 'too' powerful. Overlord pulls it off, however, and keeps things intersting despite itself.

You've lost me with your terminology. MC? OPAF?

I'm watching the 2nd season now, and well, apparently I have to get through the first three episodes of lizardman romance before I even get to see the actual characters from the first season. Whatevs

I'm watching it as well, but its slow going waiting for the dubs, which are coming out one every few weeks, despite the subs all already available. But once I start with the dubs for one season, I cant switch.

The main characters did just show back up, though. I thought it was interesting them putting all the effort into "humanizing" and making you care for the Lizardmen, which Overlord just sort of casually stated he was going to wipe out just to display his power at the end of last season. But yeah, I was happy when the main characters showed up again, they are far more interesting.
 
You've lost me with your terminology. MC? OPAF?

My bad.

MC = Main Character.

OPAF = Over-powered as fuck.

Ains is considered one of the most overpowered protagonists in anime.

But once I start with the dubs for one season, I cant switch.

Perfectly understandable.

The main characters did just show back up, though. I thought it was interesting them putting all the effort into "humanizing" and making you care for the Lizardmen, which Overlord just sort of casually stated he was going to wipe out just to display his power at the end of last season. But yeah, I was happy when the main characters showed up again, they are far more interesting.

The goal isn't to wipe them out, but to conquer. Stick, then the carrot. Ains is experimenting with expanding his territory, but interestingly, is more interested in forcing his former AI minions to evolve as self-determining individuals. I'm looking forward to seeing where they go with this (I haven't read the manga).
 
Ains is considered one of the most overpowered protagonists in anime.

I dunno, I've seen Dragonball Z and Gurenn Lagann. He's certainly ridiculously powerful in the context of the show, but in all anime?

The goal isn't to wipe them out, but to conquer. Stick, then the carrot. Ains is experimenting with expanding his territory, but interestingly, is more interested in forcing his former AI minions to evolve as self-determining individuals. I'm looking forward to seeing where they go with this (I haven't read the manga).

Yeah, thats just the point I've reached.
 
I dunno, I've seen Dragonball Z and Gurenn Lagann. He's certainly ridiculously powerful in the context of the show, but in all anime?

One of the most OP, not the most OP. :wink:

I'm not familiar with Gurenn Lagann, and I refuse to watch DBZ on principle (though I'm familiar with the characters). :grin:

What makes Ain different, from say Goku, is that Goku has to train, fight, and overcome his limitations to become stronger. It's classic shonen. Ain did all of that already, and seems to have maxed out his level/stats. Overlord was really not about the shonen trope of being challenged and becoming stronger; it was about an already strong protagonist who finds himself in an uncertain situation and wants to make sure all the kids stay off his lawn. So far, season two seems to be about Ains trying to expand the size of his lawn, and setting up guard dogs to make sure the kids stay off it. Plus lizardman porn. I don't even.

Log Horizon's Shiroe is similar. He was already an elite player, part of an elite squad, in the MMORPG he played before becoming trapped in a fantasy world. He's not as strong as Ain, but a lot more crafty, I think, and the challenges he faces are a lot more interesting in terms of the motives involved, exploration the new world, and diplomacy. It's a flawed gem, though, as there are a few, glaring things that really put me off the show (cough, lolli romance, cough). And the later seasons are sub-par.
 
I once had to watch Dragonball Z with my nephew and I almost passed out into a coma. And I thought the cartoons we watched as kids that existed to sell toys were as shitty as it got.
 
I once had to watch Dragonball Z with my nephew and I almost passed out into a coma. And I thought the cartoons we watched as kids that existed to sell toys were as shitty as it got.

DBZ is a fan fav for a lot of people, a classic, shonen anime. I can't stand it; my reaction is similar to yours.
 
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