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Also Banner and Doom IIRC.I remember how in that world, Richards, Stark, and Pym all met in college, which was a pretty cool idea.
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Also Banner and Doom IIRC.I remember how in that world, Richards, Stark, and Pym all met in college, which was a pretty cool idea.
Also Banner and Doom IIRC.
So it's not taking place in the Franklinverse? lol
And then they kicked Liefeld off of his rebooted Captain America and he went off and did a reboot of that Kirby Cap clone, Fighting Eagle? or something. Crazy times
Fighting American. He made him more like Cap, as the original didn't carry a shield. Titan Comics licensed the character, and did two mini-series, as well as reprinting the original stories. I haven't read them yet, but i got them on sale via Comixology. Wouldn't mind seeing a team up between him and their original character Blazing Glory
Why the hell are there Beyonders (emphasis on the S)? Did Marvel screw that up too?
I will say that one thing I don't miss from older comics is that weird thing where they see the need to cover every single page with a million word boxes describing exactly what you can already see happening in the images.
Rereading all the core X-Men series again from the beginning and if I see one more box that just describes that colossus is super strong/tough...
Why the hell are there Beyonders (emphasis on the S)? Did Marvel screw that up too?
Because hope springs eternal, I'm going to be getting the forthcoming Heroes Reborn mini, which covers a Marvel earth where the Avengers were never formed, and some of the spinoff minis that will be tied into it. I'm a bit of a sucker for superhero alternate reality stories, as well as the classic Squadron Supreme setup, and this looks to play into both of those elements, as the main hero group is the Squadron Supreme of America.
Yeah, I recall part of the lawsuit's resolution was that Liefeld couldn't depict him throwing his shield, lol.
A character born from bitterness over Captain America twice over again.
I read a friend's copy of the story where the Beyonder is reborn as a woman and shown how amoebas are above cosmic concept entities because it's a mystical loop thingie. And I read some of the scans daily pages from Hickman's run on Avengers but not enough to know more than these beyonder guys were behind the universes being merged/destroyed and that people don't send Thor to negociate if they're acting in good faith.The Marvel Wiki breaks it all down for you. Since I had stopped reading Marvel long before this happened (other than Counter Earth being stolen), I don't know much about all this
The Buscema Youtube post got watching this review of his "How to Draw the Marvel Way" book.
Tons of nostalgia but also fair criticism.
Talk about a convoluted mess.
Yeah. And then there is Patsy Walker and her history...
Or Carol Danvers and how she was used by Immortus (and the Avengers let it happen)
I'd love (and this goes for any comic publisher with a shared universe) to see a publisher have a finite timeline. Say 5 years. At the end of that 5 years, all storylines are concluded and they start the next five years rebooting/reimagining their characters.
So Spiderman might be a wisecracking teen for 5 years, a horribly mutated hybrid the next, A non-powered vigilante after that. Keep the names. keep certain themes, but be a bit more adventurous in the depiction.
The Beyonder was fine when Shooter handled him.
The Marvel guys had some aggravation with Shooter because as soon as he was gone they pretty much shat on all his stuff. I think Peter and Mary Jane’s marriage might have been the last thing he was responsible for and that lasted 20 years.
See, I always found the Beyonder uninteresting. Especially because they basically ran Secret Wars and Secret Wars II so close together (there was literally something like 2 months between the end of one and the beginning of the other). It was like the herald of things to come with giant constant crossovers that ruined the ability of individual books holding their own storylines that aren't constantly interrupted.
See, I always found the Beyonder uninteresting. Especially because they basically ran Secret Wars and Secret Wars II so close together (there was literally something like 2 months between the end of one and the beginning of the other). It was like the herald of things to come with giant constant crossovers that ruined the ability of individual books holding their own storylines that aren't constantly interrupted.
Yeah the crossover events were never my thing even as a kid even though I really got into comics around the Mutant Massacre which must have been one of the first big ones, even if it was relatively grounded compared to what came after.
See I don't mind the X-Title crossovers, because they are thematically tied and a lot of the characters have strong established histories with each other from being on the same teams in previous iterations and such, so it's good to see them back together. Especially when they are like Mutant Massacre and are smaller scale stuff. (Though like I said, I love Age of Apocalypse and that was a huge world shattering style one, though that was a contained alt reality thing that once it was over everything went back to normal like nothing happened (with a few changes, like Sugar Man and Dark Beast and Nate Grey and such escaping).
Oh yeah, Secret Wars was created to do cross-merchandising with Mattel. That it turned out to be a half-decent story is testament to Shooter/Zeck.
Secret Wars II had Spider-Man teaching the Beyonder how to poop...
Speaking generally, not about any specific storyline, my take on comic book continuity is that, as long as the story I'm currently reading is a good story and internally consistent, I really don't care if it contradicts some other story from decades prior.
I spent an hour trying to explain X-Men to my two sons and man trying to get into any conversation without going into some kind of bizarre tangent about some whacky shit is impossible.
It actually started as a discussion of how one of the artists for New Mutants insisted on giving Cannonball a forehead that was 8 stories tall.
Edit: My god why:
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