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It seems like you want to have your gaming cake and eat the moral/possibly political? cake too.
In the end, you're going to have to - either accept that your conscience is right, and stop murder hoboing, or accept that you're edging close to the deep end, and get over yourself and have fun.
Tough words I know, but that circle has to be squared.
Ok, fair enough, but what about all the creatures I listed? Hell, look at standard D&D Orcs...Well yes, it's gaming, a liberating exercise in wish fulfillment among other things. If I can't have my cake and eat it too in this pursuit, where can I?
You’re letting off steam and stress through simulated violence against things that don’t exist and are having a problem with it because when they’re not trying to kill you, the other species have lives, hopes and dreams...Dreams of dancing around a mound of human skulls, wearing the flayed skins of your neighbors and friends, hoping to be strong enough one day to kill the current leader and all his offspring, take his mates and warband and slaughter an even greater human town. You’re sipping the kool-aid brother. D&D worlds ain’t Earth, they’re not Azeroth.I'm not sure what I'm contemplating is really that close to 'the deep end'. Plenty of people other than me draw highly personal moral lines in gaming. Some revel in grimdark battlefield carnage, but no hurting children please! Some laugh when the huge explosion the group set off levels a populated block, but oh my god is the dog ok!? Some meticulously describe torture and pale at the mere implication of rape.
If there’s no humanoids, or other worshippers of evil outsiders, just Undead, or the Insect Hives, it wouldn’t bother me, it’s just a different setting is all.I think if I hadn't said anything and you had joined this theoretical D&D campaign, you wouldn't have noticed anything particular was up.
Maybe come up with another way to get rid of stress and get some physical action in to replace D&D combat. Sports, working out, martial arts, gun range, archery range, paintball, air soft, etc. Miniature wargames.It's alright, I appreciate that aspect of you. Maybe you're right, maybe I'll calm down in time.
My apologies, good fellow, my post wasn't intended to imply anything of the sort. I was yelling at the clouds, not you.Fenris-77, this isn't political for me, it's personal/psychological. I'm not condemning anything you do in your own games. Any resemblance my topic has to any current ideological bandwagons is coincidental except inasmuch as I'd like to avoid getting caught up in them from one angle or the other.
This isn't political for me, it's personal/psychological... Any resemblance my topic has to any current ideological bandwagons is coincidental except inasmuch as I'd like to avoid getting caught up in them from one angle or the other.
Lofgeornost, the bandwagon in question is an interesting topic, but it is too political for this forum and I think we should drop this aspect of the conversation. As for "no-kill" genres, I'm definitely going to try that in a modern setting.