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Those darned geese!See post #
Yeah, I've run afowl of it quite often. IIRC it's 10,000 letters/spaces
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Those darned geese!See post #
Yeah, I've run afowl of it quite often. IIRC it's 10,000 letters/spaces
Here's my ideal solution to do what's being discussed. Poster makes a post in the review forum. Poster is now the only person who can post in that thread. Upon completion of a post a new thread is created in the main forum labeled a discussion thread. That thread is now appended to the begining and end of each post in the thread in the review forum.
Sound about right?
Those darned geese!
Does the forum software even allow “privately owned” threads?
No. Never. Not an option. Conformity must be enforced!Can those of us who prefer discussion with our reviews still just post them in main?
Yes this is extremely important. I am perfectly fine with criticism so long as it is a legit issue and not an ad hominem attack. In fact, I would be severely disappointed if criticism were not allowed. Criticism should use clear and specific language instead of vague accusations and hyperbole.I think negative reviews or partially negative reviews are necessary as long as they can do 2 things:
1. Give specific criticisms, not just crap on the product. Things like 'the psionic combat system makes it very unlikely to do more pt damage than you spend making the attack, making it pointless." not just "this is the crappiest, most ill thought out book ever."
2. Harsh on the product, not the creator. You don't need to bring up aspects of the creator's life are other things they've done that also suck.
It only would because some people would still post reviews in the main forum.I can't imagine a form entitled "Reviews" confusing anyone?
But to cut down on forums it could be combined with the Resources forum....Reviews & Resources
It only would because some people would still post reviews in the main forum.
If you're going to force me to disallow replies and aren't going to let me post in the main forum instead, honestly I just won't post any reviews on here. I might be the only one that feels strongly enough about that though.that's easily fixed
Exactly. It's not so much that the reviews subforum is a ghetto, but that discussions of reviews so quickly turn into general discussions of the product and maybe it's game line. So you could have a general discussion on the quieter reviews forum... or in the more populated general discussion forum.I think this might mean that reviews get a bit more notice and discussion on the site than they otherwise would. On TBP, reviews stand alone in a different part of the site. Each has its own thread to 'discuss this review' but IME these don't generate many posts or much discussion. If they were incorporated into the forums that are already busier--which is what Tristram is talking about, I think--then maybe the reviews would get more attention. Of course, this would require the author of the review to create the linked thread on the other forum on this site.
Yep. If the text isn't enough to help someone make a more informed decision, then the text isn't doing it's job; the purpose of a review isn't to say "buy this" or "don't", it's to tell someone why they might want to consider buying it (Or not).My preference would be no rating numbers at all. Read the text of the review.
If you're going to force me to disallow replies and aren't going to let me post in the main forum instead, honestly I just won't post any reviews on here. I might be the only one that feels strongly enough about that though.
Not necessarily. I don't care about location; I care about whether I can have discussion. I don't like the feeling of monologuing into the void. I want the possibility of back and forth. So it's not some big drama thing. Just that if that isn't possible here I think a blog would be a better option for me.So instead of having a thread on the main forum, you want to post a thread on the main forum or you wont post any reviews?
So I see your point. Can I suggest whatever we try people just give it an honest try and see what happens. If a separate discussion thread try it out and see how it works. If a single merged discussion and review combined try it and see if it creates a more distracting environment.Not necessarily. I don't care about location; I care about whether I can have discussion. I don't like the feeling of monologuing into the void. I want the possibility of back and forth. So it's not some big drama thing. Just that if that isn't possible here I think a blog would be a better option for me.
Obviously I'd see how it plays out in practice, but I worry that separating the two is going to make discussion less likely.
What is? RPGs?It is how RPGnet originated.
And their review section is largely ignored by their users. :pIt is how RPGnet originated.
What about using a REVIEW tag, like the HOT tag that was implemented? That way reviews could be posted in the main forum, and they could be searched for, found, and discussed, but they wouldn't take up any more "space" than other threads currently do.
They really do look like a mutated chaos beast. They’re the kind of birds you find on a Death World.Try to appease them all you want, there will be no respite or mercy from their teeth-tongued horror
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What about using a REVIEW tag, like the HOT tag that was implemented? That way reviews could be posted in the main forum, and they could be searched for, found, and discussed, but they wouldn't take up any more "space" than other threads currently do.
That’s a good idea. Make the review forum. When someone posts a review, they create a discussion for it in the Main Forum, maybe using the Review tag like Ladybird suggested, but for the discussion thread, and in their review, they link to the discussion thread.So I see your point. Can I suggest whatever we try people just give it an honest try and see what happens. If a separate discussion thread try it out and see how it works. If a single merged discussion and review combined try it and see if it creates a more distracting environment.
TristramEvans make it so. Use your Zweihander review as an example.
I dunno, they’re already writing a big review, I doubt the link to another post would be a deal breaker.Maybe people don’t want to go through all the steps to do that?
I'd be in favor of this only if you could opt out of it. In the few reviews I wrote over on the TBP, I found it really difficult to settle on a numerical rating, especially for 'style' or however they framed it.
As for some of the other issues, if I understand TristramEvans correctly, the idea would be a separate forum for reviews--and nothing but reviews. Any discussion of the review would happen in a separate, but linked, thread over in the Roleplaying Games or the Board and Miniatures Games forum, depending on what was being reviewed.
I think this might mean that reviews get a bit more notice and discussion on the site than they otherwise would. On TBP, reviews stand alone in a different part of the site. Each has its own thread to 'discuss this review' but IME these don't generate many posts or much discussion. If they were incorporated into the forums that are already busier--which is what Tristram is talking about, I think--then maybe the reviews would get more attention. Of course, this would require the author of the review to create the linked thread on the other forum on this site.
Another viable approach might be to handle the reviews the way that the Gaming Resources forum currently works. That is, the reviewer uploads the critique as a text file and the forum is actually for discussion of the review. The initial post could be the reviewer's capsule summary--maybe with those numerical ratings S Silent Green mentioned--with the link to the full review. That system might not generate a lot of comments or interest in the reviews, though.
Likewise. I don't know about you, but when I've had to use one I just write the review and decide on a number that vaguely fits without any thought on the latter.As a former music and film writer I detest rating systems, I don't mind if others used one but I'd definitely opt out myself.
Your review goes in the Review Forum and the discussion thread in the Main Forum. No one’s talking about disallowing discussion.If you're going to force me to disallow replies and aren't going to let me post in the main forum instead, honestly I just won't post any reviews on here. I might be the only one that feels strongly enough about that though.
In which case people who want to respond to it are going to need to open up a separate thread and cut and paste over there. I'm dubious that will get the same engagement. (And the lack of engagement with TBP reviews is a good example of that).Your review goes in the Review Forum and the discussion thread in the Main Forum. No one’s talking about disallowing discussion.
So the review thread would just be automatically duplicated twice? If that's the case, yep, that addresses my concerns.Cut and paste? What? No, there's simply two threads started for the review. Anyone who wants to reply, just replies.
So the review thread would just be automatically duplicated twice? If that's the case, yep, that addresses my concerns.
Not sure about the value of having a separate review forum when a tag works just as well for anyone doing a search.