I'm looking forward to Blade Runner.

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Are there other games, sci-fi or not, where you play law enforcement?

Judge Dredd seems more than a cop.

I have this but never really used it when we played CP2020:

Mutant city blues would be the most obvious police procedural. But there are others, or at least there were. I remember reading one but ....I'm so old. Maybe Gumshoe would also count.

I don't really have much interest in running a straight police procedural. But then Deckard wasn't a straight cop (if anything he was a crooked cop who was involved in a shitty, murderous job).
 
Are there other games, sci-fi or not, where you play law enforcement?

Judge Dredd seems more than a cop.

I have this but never really used it when we played CP2020:

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There are a few, but not enough (I'm a big police procedural fan), the ones I can remember:

Crime Fighter (really old now)
Gangbusters
GURPS Cops/SWAT
Judge Dredd (in various incarnations, most/all can certainly be played more 'cop' like if you dial down the gonzo)
Mutant City Blues (GUMSHOE supers cops take down supers criminals)
Ashen Stars (also GUMSHOE, seems a bit space opera than BR though)
The Thin Blue Line (Savage Worlds cops meet supernatural)
Crime Scene Series (D20 supplements )
Blade Runner (a rough and ready fan made game, for his own SKETCH system)

Android Shadow of the Beanstalk has the option to pick a cop (Genesys system)
Traveller can certainly do it too

The Department of Fabricant Management (actually sold as a skirmish game but clearly capable of RPG play too) is maybe the closest in spirit.

And of course Top Secret, Covert Ops, Dogs of WAR/Everywhen/generic systems etc. can be used as well.

This is such a rich vein in other media as well as Blade Runner (expanding with comics & Black Lotus recently) you have SNATCHER, AD Police, Detroit: Become Human, Almost Human, also Psycho-Pass, Humans and Ghost in the Shell and almost definitely some others for something a little different.
 
It's a bonus that I actually do not own any game in the cyberpunk genre yet. :wink: (I do own one film noir game: Mean Streets Expaned from Precis Intermedia.)

I like Alien well enough, but I can't see myself ever run it or read through a bunch of its lore so I skipped on that one. Certainly a beautiful looking game, though.
What do you think of Mean Streets? I’m a sucker for film noir.
 
So as stated earlier, I already own Cyberpunk Red. I love Free League (got Alien, Tales from the Loop and Vaesen).

As much as I'd love to acquire MORE STUFF, I'm trying to rationalize NOT backing this campaign.

Gonna be pouring over this thread a lot over the next few weeks to weigh pros and cons...
 
So as stated earlier, I already own Cyberpunk Red. I love Free League (got Alien, Tales from the Loop and Vaesen).

As much as I'd love to acquire MORE STUFF, I'm trying to rationalize NOT backing this campaign.

Gonna be pouring over this thread a lot over the next few weeks to weigh pros and cons...

See, why do you tell me this, when you KNOW I'm going to convince you?
 
Honestly, when will we get a mass effect rpg?
 
I've looked, if there is one its well hidden.
 
I never found an official one, don't know about the fan version.

Thinking of systems to run it, gurps could do it.

if you want the detailed system in ME3 and Andromeda (Hate andromeda? I DON"T CARE!) you'd need at least gurps level detail.
 
I hope it opens up and expands the universe. What were the colonies like? Who are they at war with?

Reckon it will be like Alien. We'll be fighting each other....
I can't really see them expanding the universe too much though they have some great writers. I suppose it's one of those "Do the IP owners care if we expand the universe in this direction?"

It's it's Harry Potter, yes. I'm inclined to think that with BR, no. And mostly because of the nature of the fanfic in both universes.
 
Well if it doesn't have some stuff about ''attack ships off tge shoulder of Orion'' and ''C beams glitter in tge dark near the tannhauser gate '' then unlike br 2049 I'll pass on this.
 
Blade Runner is probably my favorite movie of all time. I loved it so much, when I wrote a Cyberpunk RED campaign I based it quite heavily on the movie. My issue with trying to base an RPG on the setting is the same I had with BR 2049. Blade Runner's concept is such a closed loop that that all a sequel or RPG campaign can do is retread the same ground. BR is pointedly missing a lot of the cyberware and hacking that make Cybeprunk RPGs so much fun. Cybernetics are either non-existent (original movie) or restricted to the hyper-rich (2049).

I'll still check out the book when it hits the market. Maybe I can take the rules and apply them to a different setting?
 
I have a lot of Free League games and they are all of the highest quality (Forbidden Lands, Mutant Year Zero, Twilight 2000 and Aliens). Love Blade Runner but I'm just not very excited about this one and I'm not sure why... which is really odd and it's now kinda bugging me.
 
Blade Runner is probably my favorite movie of all time. I loved it so much, when I wrote a Cyberpunk RED campaign I based it quite heavily on the movie. My issue with trying to base an RPG on the setting is the same I had with BR 2049. Blade Runner's concept is such a closed loop that that all a sequel or RPG campaign can do is retread the same ground. BR is pointedly missing a lot of the cyberware and hacking that make Cybeprunk RPGs so much fun. Cybernetics are either non-existent (original movie) or restricted to the hyper-rich (2049).

I'll still check out the book when it hits the market. Maybe I can take the rules and apply them to a different setting?
Those are all reasonable points. I'm hoping they can turn some of this to an advantage, making a noir sci-fi game where gear and cybernetics isn't at the center of the system. I don't have a problem with gear-heavy cyberpunk games, but I could see this being a nice alternative.
 
I guess the question here is whether replicants are just like people or not. The movie is ambiguous, but in the book, replicants were absolutely not human in the way they thought. They were completely lacking in empathy.....
Ahhh but probably because they were only 3-4 years old and had lived their entire lives in slavery. Not sure how one develops empathy with that life story :smile:

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" is very different than the movies, and really about so much more than a dystopian future. Not sure the movies ever explained the significance of what's her name saying she would kill a wasp that stung her. In the book we know why, and the whole empathy box Mercerism is central to the book but not even alluded to in the movies.

Not to put in spoilers, but who is and is not a replicant, can they or can they not feel empathy, is an open question in the book as well.

Although the purportedly human characters say replicants have no empathy, some replicants act with greater empathy than humans. Then there is the thing that is all possibly but a foil for the concept that to be human is to feel empathy...juxtaposed against the Vietnam war and civil rights protests going on when this was written. Who is human, what is it to be human, concepts of identity or knowing what or who you are....that's PKD.
 
Although the purportedly human characters say replicants have no empathy, some replicants act with greater empathy than humans.
What I love about BL (the director's cut) it definitely shows us a deeper glimpse into the character's psyche. I also love the fact that in theory, we are looking at our true replacements. Really replicants 'could' at some point be better than us. But they are still in their early stages and we still exhibit too much control over them. Except for Rachael she's unique and is a vision of their future.
 
This is...not what I hoped for. Ah well.
 
I have a lot of Free League games and they are all of the highest quality (Forbidden Lands, Mutant Year Zero, Twilight 2000 and Aliens). Love Blade Runner but I'm just not very excited about this one and I'm not sure why... which is really odd and it's now kinda bugging me.
That describes me on this (the Bladerunner bit anyway) . Probably my favourite film and realy liked the sequel too, but not feeling the urge to roleplay in the world. Can't really put a finger on why.
 
I think what is pulling me in is the intrigue, what exactly are they going to add to the setting to make it more playable?

The fact that it is Free League and everything so far has been good for them only adds to that.

On top of which the BR comics have been good, and the same team seems to be overseeing it too adds to my expectation.

Also, and I know this puts me in the minority, I just love police procedurals.
 
Well today's the day! The Kickstarter goes live in a couple of hours.

Looking forward to seeing more about this.

If this turns out to be very much a "police procedurals" game, I'm out of luck as I'm awful with "Bureaucracy: the Red Taping". I could only run a campaign of maverick rule-breakers because I just can't be bothered to follow strict organizational SOPs.
 
The starter set looks like it is really well tailored for an investigative story. Case photos? Nice.

For now backing at the REP-DETECT Bundle.
 
I just backed the Digital bundle for 28 euros (includes all digital stretch goals). Yummy!
 
It is spoiled for me since someone commented that the shiny part should have been a origami unicorn.

Eh, I like it more as an artifact of the setting rather than a specific call out to film Decker.

Looking at the Kickstarter, I'm thinking they didn't secure the likeness rights to actually use any stills or characters from the fils, which seems a shame. Not that the art doesn't capture the aesthetics of the original film wonderfully, but I was hopig for a ice film picturebook with some gratuitous Harrison, Haur, and Hanah
 
Eh, I like it more as an artifact of the setting rather than a specific call out to film Decker.

Looking at the Kickstarter, I'm thinking they didn't secure the likeness rights to actually use any stills or characters from the fils, which seems a shame. Not that the art doesn't capture the aesthetics of the original film wonderfully, but I was hopig for a ice film picturebook with some gratuitous Harrison, Haur, and Hanah
Same with Alien. It's all original art.
 
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