My playing group tried T4. We didn't participate in the playtesting. We didn't participate in online discussions about the game. We walked into it blind. (And we wanted to like it; there were so many promises made after all!)
And we hated it.
We hated it so much, in fact, that we dropped any and all actual-branded Traveller games from that point. The GM spent a few weeks poring over Megatraveller books (after errata and errata and errata and some more errata sheets had been applied) and did a wholesale conversion of the portions of the setting relevant to our campaign to BTRC's CORPS (2nd edition) game. From that point onward CORPS was our Traveller game.
I never looked at T5 but if its editing was somehow worse than T4's, I'm glad I didn't.
So not all T4-hate stems from toxic fandom. Sometimes things just suck.
And we hated it.
We hated it so much, in fact, that we dropped any and all actual-branded Traveller games from that point. The GM spent a few weeks poring over Megatraveller books (after errata and errata and errata and some more errata sheets had been applied) and did a wholesale conversion of the portions of the setting relevant to our campaign to BTRC's CORPS (2nd edition) game. From that point onward CORPS was our Traveller game.
I never looked at T5 but if its editing was somehow worse than T4's, I'm glad I didn't.
So not all T4-hate stems from toxic fandom. Sometimes things just suck.