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Endless Flight
Endless Flight
Do you want to talk about it?
Gringnr
Gringnr
It's not looking good for him. Pretty much his last defenders are Raggi and Mearls. I expect they'll fold sooner or later. I don't know any of the people involved, so I have no "proof" of anything. But what I have witnessed of his behavior lines up perfectly with Mandy's descriptions. I also see no benefit to these women coming forward with bogus allegations.
T
The Butcher
@Endless Flight I want to but if the (far lower profile) Mentzer episode was deemed “political”, I can’t imagine this one being an exception. I am also interpreting the wider community’s silence as a vote on what they don’t want to see.
T
The Butcher
@Gringnr I believe Mandy and hope she pulls through, physically and emotionally, as well as possible. I’ve never been the biggest Zak fan (so ceasing to support him is no biggie) but I have in the past voiced skepticism towards certain accusations — which I do not regret, as I feel they were unsubstantiated then. Now though? Glad to say, “fuck that guy.”
T
The Butcher
Mearls is probably waiting for instructions from WotC. Raggi will likely stick with him as part of his permanent shock act (remember, this is the guy who wondered out loud whether to hire Varg Vikernes). I am very, very iffy, however, on some of his old online foes gloating in self-congratulatory justification at the expense of a suffering woman’s cry for help.
Tommy Brownell
Tommy Brownell
I’ve certainly gotten the sense that some folks have been more about the “gotcha” than about victims.
Gringnr
Gringnr
I dunno, Zak set himself up for this. There is room for people to be glad he's going down, and to be legitimately sorry for these women. Remember, some of the people cheering his demise are women who have been warning about him for years. I won't deny them their relief or their happiness that gaming just got a little safer and more inclusive. Feeling sorry for these women and being glad Zak is getting his aren't...
Gringnr
Gringnr
...mutually exclusive.
Tommy Brownell
Tommy Brownell
In most cases, I agree. In others, you can almost see people frothing with glee that he apparently really hurt people because it might help take down their favorite asshole.
Endless Flight
Endless Flight
I do believe most people here don’t want to talk about him more than necessary, which to some means never. If somebody wants to post a thread, that’s fine, but I don’t know how many takers there would be here. I can tell you that the mod staff has discussed it and we would address any problems that might arise if trouble comes to the Pub.
Gringnr
Gringnr
I'm sure there are some racists who celebrated Bill Cosby's imprisonment for all the wrong reasons. That doesn't mean it's inappropriate for people to be glad he's paying for his abuse of other people. A few bad apples can't be allowed to spoil the bunch. And, against m, when someone goes out of their way to be a sanctimonious, egotistical asshole, they are begging for people to dance on their grave.
Gringnr
Gringnr
Endless Flight
Endless Flight
A very sad situation. I hope those ladies and whoever else has been affected by this get the help and support they need. They need to be the focus.
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