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If they’re heavily invested, they might.Do people actually watch Kickstarters minute by minute?
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If they’re heavily invested, they might.Do people actually watch Kickstarters minute by minute?
Yeah, I've seen that- that's just diversification of revenue, I thought, rather than a move off KS, which was one of the points in my post. Evil Hat does stuff off Kickstarter, but have firmly said that KS is one part of their overall strategy.They have said that they are looking to move a number of their books off KS, especially supplements for established lines. Symbaroum's latest book was preorder only for example.
The swag is similar to and possibly even smaller than they have done for previous KSs like Root and Urban Shadows. However, I agree that when numbers get as big as they are, there is a real concern that numbers can blow out easily which is why its nice to see them stick to their guns so far around further SGs.This KS they went big and offered tons of swag, which gets them into the history books, but is gonna eat up a lot of the KS money. I hope they priced in exchange rates, etc. so they can get paid well.
Next two KS they could still offer dice and dice bags, maps of the city, etc. if they’re going to make those coffee-table gorgeous, they they might get money for hardbound color collector’s editions.
Tomas Harenstam has raised this issue in a number of the monthly updates in YT. TBH I am mostly repeating back what he is saying Its pretty exhausting and costly to have every book funded via KS with all the added SGs that come with it. So, moving supplements over to pre-order is seen as a sensible conservation of energy and focus.Yeah, I've seen that- that's just diversification of revenue, I thought, rather than a move off KS.
Most of the ones that I know that look at Kickstarter as a supplemental revenue stream have (a) limited their SGs to expansions of the product to make it better rather than the physical items, and (b) limited their number of SGs to the ones that they already have planned if they get the money. I personally view the additional physical items as red flags and have backed out of more than one KS because of the amount of free stuff that they offer because of the advent of 'death by stretch goal'.I’ve heard the same thing from other people. Massive KS’s usually have massive SG’s which are a boon to the supporters, because the bigger the KS gets, the more “free” stuff gets added. It’s a pain in the ass for most RPG publishers because they’re not in the toy business and don’t want to be, especially with the labor costs on their end for whoever is doing all the processing/packing/shipping.
Yeah, unless they’ve proven they can handle the load, I try to stay away from big physical stretch goals, because shifting currency and tariffs has sunk more than one KS. If I go big on Physical rewards it’s probably a collector’s edition book (like TOR), or someone who knows what they’re doing (like Beowulf), or a big mini blast (like Monolith, Reaper and Cmon).Most of the ones that I know that look at Kickstarter as a supplemental revenue stream have (a) limited their SGs to expansions of the product to make it better rather than the physical items, and (b) limited their number of SGs to the ones that they already have planned if they get the money. I personally view the additional physical items as red flags and have backed out of more than one KS because of the amount of free stuff that they offer because of the advent of 'death by stretch goal'.
There's some time to go yet!Avatar Legends is now in the top 10 most funded tabletop game KSs.
"And then we thought better of it, when we realized we could get more tangible benefit from literally setting money on fire."“Our next stretch goal will be to complete the long awaited Far West Roleplaying game because we have money to burn.”
Now you’ve done it. Anything associated with Far West is bound to fail, badly.“Our next stretch goal will be to complete the long awaited Far West Roleplaying game because we have money to burn.”
There was some controversy with one of the last stretch goals- not sure if it's going to pick up steam and cost them...
I’m assuming it’s the One Shot Actual Play. A lot of people don’t give a crap about “Celebrity” RPG streamers, especially the ones there for the Avatar Swag.What one? Looking at them I can't see anything that would incite a shitstorm although these days it doesn't take much.
The “celebrity” actual play.What one? Looking at them I can't see anything that would incite a shitstorm although these days it doesn't take much.
The “celebrity” actual play.
I think chuckdee is referring to the choice of Satine Phoenix for the Actual Play. TBP has a number of posters who seem upset with the choice given her actions during the ZakS fallout.
I think chuckdee is referring to the choice of Satine Phoenix for the Actual Play. TBP has a number of posters who seem upset with the choice given her actions during the ZakS fallout. There is similar outrage with any Magpie Game TBH given Mark Diaz Truman’s actions at that time.
However, there was also an outcry from a few backers that an actual play SG was not good. However, there has been similar amounts of outcry with previous SGs because Kickstarter.
That is ridiculous.That's it. The entitlement is strong with this KS. People are canceling pledges because of Satine Phoenix, true. (And saying things that aren't true). But there are actually more canceling because the 8m stretch goal was an actual play, which is ridiculous.
They have already signaled there may be delays due to the cardboard needed for 160,000 books. Its good that they are communicating early and its an understandable issue.Let’s hope they are well organized in delivering to the backers, because if there are problems it could be a nightmare.
It hit $9m a while back They have said there are no more SG after $8m.Well what if they hit $9M by some miracle. Do they then have to come up with a stretch goal for that too? Sometimes enough is enough.
Just came here to post this- he's a pretty cool dude from everything I've seen of him.They have just confirmed Dante Basco will be joining the actual play (along with Jennie Kwan).
I don't have mine yet. Did this come through DTRPG?The PDF of the rules has been released to most backers. Its a pretty dense 300 page rulebook and consistent with what is in the Quickstart. I like what I am seeing.
There is quite a bit of lore in there with the first 100 pages being devoted solely to setting material.