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Well, don’t be too hard on yourself, Allen. Nobody can know every product of every RPG line although some people like to tell everyone they do.
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Well, don’t be too hard on yourself, Allen. Nobody can know every product of every RPG line although some people like to tell everyone they do.
This really is an advantage. I favor BoH over HB for the same reason. It's easier for me to keep track of my stuff when it's all in one place. And as we've seen in this very thread I have issues with that enough even in just one place.And you have the added benefit of putting them on DTRPG, which is the reason I'm buying them. Humble Bundle doesn't do that, which makes it less useful to me to buy there.
What's the Spectaculars/Dusk City Outlaws system like? From the description, Dusk City Outlaws sounds like a direct competitor to Blades in the Dark.I have Spectaculars, which I understand uses a similar system. It seems like a simple percentile system with card-based random generation.
On one hand, I'm intrigued, because I like Spectaculars. On the other hand, it seems like a system where having physical product is a big plus.
Bear in mind I don't actually own DSO, so there may be differences here I'm not capturing. Characters are built on archetypes from a pad related to the campaign, and then players get to draw and select from cards (in the case of Spectaculars, background and power cards, I guess dusk city has quirks).What's the Spectaculars/Dusk City Outlaws system like? From the description, Dusk City Outlaws sounds like a direct competitor to Blades in the Dark.
Just noted this in my email inbox and came to post it. Lol Beat me to it by an hour. Gotta be quick around here!!Bundle Of Holding store page with various 'starter packs' available on a non-limited basis.
The Bundle Store
bundleofholding.com
The Traveller bundle is really tempting. And if its non limited, I can get it next month!Bundle Of Holding store page with various 'starter packs' available on a non-limited basis.
The Bundle Store
bundleofholding.com
Yea, but I still maintain the Classic Traveller CD-ROM from Far Future Enterprises is a MUCH better deal. For the extra 15 bucks ($10 more cost, $5 shipping) you get a TON more content.The Traveller bundle is really tempting. And if its non limited, I can get it next month!
BoH deals are great.Yea, but I still maintain the Classic Traveller CD-ROM from Far Future Enterprises is a MUCH better deal. For the extra 15 bucks ($10 more cost, $5 shipping) you get a TON more content.
True, it would be nice for the FFE deals to actually be done through DTRPG. I wonder if rolling the $5 shipping charge into the DTRPG cost would net Marc close enough to the same take. It would be nice to just be able to download updates and know that baring OBS going under, you can't lose your games.BoH deals are great.
FFE deals are insane but it's a physical disk and not Integrated into DTRPG.
$5 shipping can grow a lot when it's the UK you're shipping to.True, it would be nice for the FFE deals to actually be done through DTRPG. I wonder if rolling the $5 shipping charge into the DTRPG cost would net Marc close enough to the same take. It would be nice to just be able to download updates and know that baring OBS going under, you can't lose your games.
That is such a great idea. The Bundle of Holding is a real boon to the gaming community.Bundle Of Holding store page with various 'starter packs' available on a non-limited basis.
The Bundle Store
bundleofholding.com
Yea, and despite my bringing up FFE every time Traveller bundles come up, I love Bundle of Holding and have picked up a few myself. They are awesome deals. It's just that Marc Miller takes awesome and steps it up a couple notches. And I love to point out how awesome that is. I wish more game lines would do Bundle of Holding or better.That is such a great idea. The Bundle of Holding is a real boon to the gaming community.
I don't think it's bad to make people aware of options. They can make their own decisions. I've known of the FFE disc options for ages but still pick BoH over it because the option to download from their site or DTRPG whenever I need it is a real bonus vs having to find it on a disc or somewhere on a drive in my houseYea, and despite my bringing up FFE every time Traveller bundles come up, I love Bundle of Holding and have picked up a few myself. They are awesome deals. It's just that Marc Miller takes awesome and steps it up a couple notches. And I love to point out how awesome that is. I wish more game lines would do Bundle of Holding or better.
Gotcha... I use it enough that it's easy to find on my laptop, the Windows Quick Access shortcut helps a lot... Plus, the disc is the only way to get 1977 in PDF... And I like have ALL of the supplements available...I don't think it's bad to make people aware of options. They can make their own decisions. I've known of the FFE disc options for ages but still pick BoH over it because the option to download from their site or DTRPG whenever I need it is a real bonus vs having to find it on a disc or somewhere on a drive in my house
Well, you'd only need to do that once.Downloading from a disc!!!???
What is this...the Stone Age???
You can also get a thumb drive instead...Downloading from a disc!!!???
What is this...the Stone Age???
Yes and we like our wolfskin breeches and flint spears! You and your fancy steel and titanium. Ooh look at me fancy pants and his lycra! Isn't he just the bell of the ball.Downloading from a disc!!!???
What is this...the Stone Age???
I'm eyeing it myself, at least the basic bundle; I'm not sure I want the adventures enough to spring for the bonus collection.Great idea with the new Bundles.
I picked up the Lankhmar Bundle as I'm a big fan of DCC and Leiber.
I might actually look up Shadow of the Demon Lord.
JG
Yup, great game. Really well done.Its worth a look if you can fit it into your budget.
Its one of the three D&D-evolved games I will bother with, though I find the setting in it way too dark for my taste.Yup, great game. Really well done.
Out of curiosity, which are the other two?Its one of the three D&D-evolved games I will bother with, though I find the setting in it way too dark for my taste.
Out of curiosity, which are the other two?
My own answers are "DCC, Dragon Heresy and Fantasy Craft", FWIW. SotDL I'm on the verge for.
13th Age I might consider at some point. I've got that one...13th Age and Pathfinder 2e.
Any fun stories about it?After my experience with PF1e, I haven't even looked at my copy of PF2e.
13th Age I might consider at some point. I've got that one...
PF2e, though? Unless it's radically different from both PF1e and D&D 5e, which nobody has claimed so far, it's hard pass for me.
SotDL is about the closest we come together on this, it seems!
Just out of curiosity, are you familiar with the other three games I listed?
After my experience with PF1e, I haven't even looked at my copy of PF2e.
Yeah, Fantasy Craft looked like that before I tried it, too. But then a friend ran it, and I didn't want to sit it out, and it turned out to play way better than it read.Two of them. DCC is just the opposite of what I want if I'm going to be dealing with a D&D derivative, and Fantasy Craft was not sufficiently different from other D&D 3 era offshoots to interest me.
Yeah, Fantasy Craft looked like that before I tried it, too. But then a friend ran it, and I didn't want to sit it out, and it turned out to play way better than it read.
Out of curiosity, what are you looking for when dealing with a D&D derivative?
Any fun stories about it?
And I've never acquired a copy of PF2e, since there isn't much point in reading it, as far as I'm concerned. Unless someone can assure me I might like it, I guess. But everything I've seen, except "shields are more useful now", didn't help selling me on it. On the contrary, actually!
Depending on your specific reasons, that might be well founded or operating on a mistaken assumption about some of the design criteria of 2e. There are important areas they share, and ones where they diverge strongly.
Sad to say, but that pretty much confirms my sole experience with Pathfinder. Except the other players seemed to enjoy it, so I just bowed out by myself.I've always had it and haven't viewed it as any better or worse than the various iterations of D&D. I purchased a lot of the material to use in other things, but had never played it until this past year. My MMO guild decided to get together a group to play Pathfinder over Discord/Roll20. I was optimistic going in; I'd been under the impression it was pretty much 3.5 for all the people that didn't like 4.0. Making a character was an exercise in less than optimal choices it seemed. My GM had addressed a lot of the pointless choices by using an article that did away with Feat Taxes to a large extent, but there were still feats and requirements that made you get less than optimal feats and skills and the feats that you purchased were never used again. Or maybe they were supposed to be, but the bonus was so situational and small that you forgot about it in many cases.
I played a Brawler- he was pretty much a thug, though he didn't have the mindset of a thug. His background was that he washed out of the local thieves' guild because a job was botched by his adoptive brother and they were thrown to the wolves. The GM tried to make some interesting set pieces, and some worked better than others, but combat being the drawn out affair that it was didn't support the type of play he tried to make it out to be, and in many cases the character just felt less than competent, depending on dice rolls and randomness to succeed.
Even the GM wasn't having fun in the end, and even though we tried to let him know it was OK if he didn't want to keep going, he instead tried to end the campaign by party wipe instead of just telling us that.