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I don't feel so good.
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I don't feel so good.
I read the series when I was like 13. I missed so much subtext.
It's quite complex, like LOTR or The Book of the New Sun. It can easily stand multiple re-readings and unless you have superhuman reading comprehension it will take multiple re-readings to pick up on the nuances. I first read it when I was maybe 14 or 15 and didn't understand the nuances either.I read the series when I was like 13. I missed so much subtext.
I have faith Herbert was going for something deeper that never got realized. I mean, this is the same guy who did the Juses incident quadrilogy just a few years earlier. The man's writing had depth.
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I agree. I saw the documentary a while back. It’s had an influence on cinema for sure, but the story itself dodged a bullet.I think the world ia actually etter for that film not having been made. There's no way it would have lived up the the legendary status that's achieved, and it's disseminated influence on late 70s/early 80s sci fi cinema gave us great stuff like Flash Gordon, which probably would not have pilfered from a weird psychedelic italian indy film.
I agree. I saw the documentary a while back. It’s had an influence on cinema for sure, but the story itself dodged a bullet.
You're also probably aware that Jodorowsky and Moebius put all that trippy inspirational sci-fi art from the DUNE project to good use later on, as it ended up being the mojo for their euro-graphic novel series The Incal and MetabaronsI think the world ia actually better for that film not having been made. There's no way it would have lived up the the legendary status that it's achieved, and it's disseminated influence on late 70s/early 80s sci fi cinema gave us great stuff like Flash Gordon, which probably would not have pilfered from a weird psychedelic italian indy film.
You're also probably aware that Jodorowsky and Moebius put all that trippy inspirational sci-fi art from the DUNE project to good use later on, as it ended up being the mojo for their euro-graphic novel series The Incal and Metabarons
Jodorwosky's script for Dune was supposedly used for his comic Metabarons, which is a great gonzo space opera but nothing like Dune.
Jodorsky's Dune would have been insane. I'd watch it. The documentary was amazing. Even so, I doubt it would have succeeded in the market place.
The issue is that Duncan Idaho is deliberately that great white hero. He's John Wayne and Clint Eastwood and James Bond all rolled into one. He's the square jawed, cleft chinned, guy that the Great Westley parodys in The Amazing Race.
He's a great fighter and a ladies man and largely unconsequential to the plot beyond your expectation of him being there. In the later books, he's a curiousity brought back from a lost age for his genetic potential who is slower and weaker than most in those times. In the ultimate end he's the super weapon against female sexuality.
If I had to cast this role I would pick Jason or Idris Elba... maybe Chris Hemsworth.
Which is why I believe Idaho is being played by Jason Momoa.If I had to cast this role I would pick Jason or Idris Elba... maybe Chris Hemsworth.
Which is why I believe Idaho is being played by Jason Momoa.
More like Momoa is the right combination of cheap, easy to work with and recognisable?Because the world is suck?
More like Momoa is the right combination of cheap, easy to work with and recognisable?
And that's confirmed by IMDB. This cast, not filling me with confidence.cheap and easy is how one gets to the world sucking, sure
And that's confirmed by IMDB. This cast, not filling me with confidence.
I think it's a lot of uninspired casting, myself. A bunch of safe, bankable hands, but very little in the way of wow factor. Dave Bautista as Beast Rabban? Abra Kadabra from The Flash as Piter DeVries?I think Chalamet, Brolin, Isaac, Bardem, Charlotte Rampling, Chen Chang are all top drawer choices for the cast. Zendaya I don't know that well but she was charming in the last Spiderman movie.
Which is why I believe Idaho is being played by Jason Momoa.
I'll see your Dune track and raise you a Robocop.Fuck yeah, Dune. I read the books, of course. Good stuff except Duncan Idaho felt like the author's self-insert and I got pretty sick of his presence. I really liked the David Lynch flick, I must have watched that like 50 times in the 90's with an old gf of mine. Many a night after work/school we would get high and watch Dune. Plus, you know, occasionally dancing to mixes of this song while blasted on ecstasy at a club; it was endlessly remixed and played in the early 90's rave scene. Probably overplayed truth be told.
I'm cautiously optimistic about the film.
Does he go into how The Hobbit is an inversion of Beowulf?The Sellamillion is written by the sf writer Adam Roberts under a pseudonym. His sf novels tend to be really good (he’s quite prolific): Yellow Blue Tibia is particular is one of the finest modern sf novels I’ve read.
He is also an academic and wrote an really good book on the Hobbit and Tolkien’s use of riddles to structure the novel called, shockingly, The Riddles of the Hobbit.
Does he go into how The Hobbit is an inversion of Beowulf?
Well I see both of your Dune and your RoboCop tracks, and I will raise you a Cthulhu Mythos :I'll see your Dune track and raise you a Robocop.
No because it pulls in that extra demographic that is not enthralled with the source material. AKA, other people other than nerds are expected to pay money to watch this. My wife is a prime example. While she may be interested in it, as she is a closeted nerd. Her only experience withe the source material is watching the Lynch film. On the other hand their is only one reason why she has watched a Conan, and any DC supers movies.More like Momoa is the right combination of cheap, easy to work with and recognisable?