So 2e was just more rules heavy? That's kind of what I thought.
It’s so rules heavy it gets silly at times. It’s supposed to be modular (there are “campaign qualities” that change how some things work), but so much of it intertwined that the modularity becomes a headache. There’s just so much stuff and it’s so over-explained.
Imagine Bond with all the charisma but none of the brains or sauve. Oh and mommy issues. And mom runs the spy agency.
That's awesome. You gotta at least give props for going overboard, diving down to a sunken ship, and then going overboard on that one as well. I just find something beautiful about a game that just gets excessively overblown, even if I don't like games like that at all.
You’re right. I know I sound like I’m dumping on Spycraft 2E but it’s more that I was so frustrated and disappointed because I thought 1E was a great game that really just needed a bit of streamlining, and 2E was such a mechanics-fest, instead.
I haven't watched it either, and I'm a big Bond fan. Just didn't seem like my kind of show.
Yeah, I'm the opposite. I buy dead tree versions, but mostly to fill up my shelves. It turns me off when there's no PDF.
I don't necessarily see loving Bond as the same as loving Archer. If you like Adult Snarky cartoons then Archer is a fun take on a Bond like character but the former part of the sentence is the most important part not the Bond part.
Not necessarily. I've been thinking about how to reduce body counts in my tabletop games lately. Seems to me that modern corporate shadow wars are a situation where you really don't want the kind of heat that routine murder brings down on you. An increased emphasis on martial arts and scientifically improbable knock-outs would be just the ticket.
I like the Le Carre flavour of the game, and I don't mind having some heavy narrative aspects in my game, although I'm unsure if Cold Shadows is perhaps a bit too narrative for my group. I'm intrigued with this game however, and I suspect alot of it could be applied to another set of core mechanics if need be.
I love Wick's stuff, and Houses of the Blooded is especially brilliant, IMO. I do think it would have a steep learning curve for players who are used to a different and less demanding playstyle. Worth the effort though.
That's what I'm afraid of.
See I'm good with that as well. I love kit bashing things together. Much how I like the setting of Cold City. But the system leaves me, well cold. So I replaced it with something completely different, and had a lot of fun with it.
See I kind of do want that to a degree. But really I want a kinda happy middle. So like "The Sandbaggers". So some "action" but mostly, the tension is from trying to get your way in inter depart, inter service, and government institutions. I kind of also like the idea of troupe play. So playing the head of D-ops, and a sand bagger. One character for the "action", one for the deals in a smokey room.
Not in America.
...I'm suddenly filled with appreciation for your favourite system! Uh, remind me which system that was, again
?So make them undercover agents among dangerous people, where no scrapes would be unusual and giving yourself away
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! Then set them in Europe or certain Asian countries, and bingo, you have both a reliance on fistfights, and plenty reasons to get in those.
...I'm suddenly filled with appreciation for your favourite system! Uh, remind me which system that was, again
I think this is the only place I've seen it referenced, and I can't help but feel excited. I hope it's not canned just on the back burner.
Of course you would say soI meant 'familiar' in intellectual terms, not actual practice.
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