Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
I really wish Fading Suns hadn't....faded away. That was a fantastic setting
I think Bill Bridges (Werewolf developer) was one of the original writers, along with another WW developer, Andrew Greenburg (Vampire developer). The WW influence is palpable, as is the WH40K setting to a degree. I have a theory that it was written about the same time White Wolf were generally looking at developing a sci-fi setting. Mark Rein Hagen was writing Exile, but they eventually released Aeon/Trinity. My feeling is that Fading Suns was possibly also mooted as a scifi idea for White Wolf by the two developers, but they went with other options. Could be wrong though.Bill Bridges is working on a new edition. Man I loved that setting, but the rules set was awful.
Fading Suns - Ulisses Spiele
www.ulisses-us.com
Really? I was in the UK at the time, and for my circles it was very much the case that RuneQuest was something of a forgotten game in the 1990s. There was still the 3rd edition that could be found in some game shops, but it largely had no new edition during the decade, and the style of the book was a bit dry compared to other games (like the WoD books, for example) at the time. Moreover, in a decade that saw the rise of a lot of urban fantasies and dark roleplaying games, some of the older games were sidelined a bit. Elric was still about though.Also Runequest - at least in the UK, it was the time of the Runequest Glorantha revival.
Really? I was in the UK at the time, and for my circles it was very much the case that RuneQuest was something of a forgotten game in the 1990s. There was still the 3rd edition that could be found in some game shops, but it largely had no new edition during the decade, and the style of the book was a bit dry compared to other games (like the WoD books, for example) at the time. Moreover, in a decade that saw the rise of a lot of urban fantasies and dark roleplaying games, some of the older games were sidelined a bit. Elric was still about though.
I picked up tons of Cyberpunk and GURPS books from the Virgin store in Chester. They used to have a fantastic RPG section back in the 90s.Yeah, really - but you had to look after GW moved from RPGs in the late '80s. I had to order my copy of Sun County from the States, but I picked up everything else - Dorastor, River of Cradles, Lords of Terror from Virgin, back when they still stocked RPGs too.
Elder Secrets was ?1989
Although I did pick up a ton of stuff in the Dublin Virgin RPG sell-off in 1995, and the Avalon Hill licence got weird not long after that
I picked up tons of Cyberpunk and GURPS books from the Virgin store in Chester. They used to have a fantastic RPG section back in the 90s.
I used to go to Quiggins a lot back then.Small world - I was in Liverpool back then!
I don’t have my copy handy at the moment, but I’m pretty sure Cyberpunk2020 came out in 1990. You may be thinking of Cyberpunk 2013, its progenitor.Cyberpunk 2020 was late 80s, but quite visible in the early-mid 90s.
I don’t have my copy handy at the moment, but I’m pretty sure Cyberpunk2020 came out in 1990. You may be thinking of Cyberpunk 2013, its progenitor.
Yes, you are correct. The first edition Cyberpunk 2013 was published in 19881988
An important distinction because it allows R. Talsorian to claim that it was the first Cyberpunk game ahead of Shadowrun (1989). It wasn't however, as I regard the Judge Dredd RPG by Games Workshop to be a cyberpunk game too, and it came out in 1985...Yes, you are correct. The first edition Cyberpunk 2013 was published in 1988
Referenced from the wiki
"Cyberpunk, mainly known by its second edition title Cyberpunk 2020, is a cyberpunk role-playing game written by Mike Pondsmith and published by R. Talsorian Games in 1988. Because of the release in 1990 of the second edition, set in a fictional 2020, the first edition is often now referred to as Cyberpunk 2013, following the year, 2013, in which the game was set when it was first released in 1988. The third edition, published by R. Talsorian Games in 2005, is referred to as Cyberpunk V3.0 and is set further along the same fictional timeline as the former editions, during the 2030s"Cyberpunk (role-playing game) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I call Dredd proto-Cyberpunk. Some of the same elements are present in each game, but Mega-City 1 is a very different beast from your typical cyberpunk sprawl.An important distinction because it allows R. Talsorian to claim that it was the first Cyberpunk game ahead of Shadowrun (1989). It wasn't however, as I regard the Judge Dredd RPG by Games Workshop to be a cyberpunk game too, and it came out in 1985...
T4 came out in 1996. For early 90s you'd be talking about Traveller: The New Era which came out in '93.
An important distinction because it allows R. Talsorian to claim that it was the first Cyberpunk game ahead of Shadowrun (1989). It wasn't however, as I regard the Judge Dredd RPG by Games Workshop to be a cyberpunk game too, and it came out in 1985...
I don't know how SR has changed, but the one I'm familiar with is more cyberpunk with fantasy trimmings than the other way around, and the setting was incredibly dark |(Bug City anyone?)
I think this is true but I'd give at least a caveat that one of the best cyberpunk movies of recent years has been Dredd - and it is definitively part of that genre by any measure.GW Judge Dredd is the game I specifically credit for swaying me away from the one set of rules to rule them all theory. I had a blast playing that game, it may not have been the best set of rules out there but it fit the setting well and our games resembled the JD comics we were reading at the time. I'm sure HERO could have done it, but don't think it would have been as much fun.
Sadly I no longer have a copy of the game.
Agree with Stevethulhu in that JD shares a lot in common with cyberpunk, and was definitely an influence on the genre, but kind of its own thing, and shares as much with post apocalypse as it does cyberpunk.
Personally I'd set Shadowrun aside as well, as it is not pure cyberpunk, more urban fantasy with cyberpunk trimmings. In my experience anyway it has the cyberpunk look, but it lacks the hard edge of most of the founding cyberpunk fiction.