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Baulderstone said:
Sure. That's exactly how I played D&D back in the day without even thinking about it.
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Funny thing is, for me and my friends during that time, we had no one to explain to us that those were actually *two* different games! So we just bought whatever looked cool, and then got confused when nothing seemed to match up lol
 
Akrasia said:
Definitely.

Advanced OSE take B/X as the base and adds to it (drawing on 1e AD&D). So fighters have d8 HD, clerics don't get any spells at level 1, etc., even with the "Advanced" options.

I think this game is taking 1e AD&D as the base and "subtracting" (or simplifying) it using B/X. So fighters have d10 HD, clerics get spells at level 1 (plus bonus spells for Wisdom), etc. But it goes with B/X for initiative, spellcasting, etc.

I prefer the latter approach myself. But I know my way around AD&D well enough (I think) to do it myself. Still, I may back this for the art alone...
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Yeah what I liked about Advanced OSE was how cleverly but simply Norman expanded B/X's ruleset to include AD&D classes and races. Not sure I see the need for another B/X and AD&D mashup.
 
The WOIN (What's Old Is New) version of Hypercorps 2099 is live on Kickstarter!



Fight against powerful organizations, steal from greedy hypercorporations, contend with other operators, escape Cleveland 2099, buy the latest cyberware, destroy a robodragon, surf the Hypernet, and SO MUCH MORE in this 181 page rulebook set in the world of Hyper Earth.
 
Mike Myler said:
The WOIN (What's Old Is New) version of Hypercorps 2099 is live on Kickstarter!



Fight against powerful organizations, steal from greedy hypercorporations, contend with other operators, escape Cleveland 2099, buy the latest cyberware, destroy a robodragon, surf the Hypernet, and SO MUCH MORE in this 181 page rulebook set in the world of Hyper Earth.
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FUNDED! ^_^
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This just launched:



Even though I don't have the latest Middle Earth RPG for 5e (I have everything for Adventures in Middle Earth), I've heard mostly good things. Plus I really wanted Moria for that game.

So I'm backing it. That massive cloth map and that John Howe print are pretty sweet.
 
Elder Evil said:
I am surprised but happy that Wasted Lands got funded after all. Looks intriguing, and it would have been a shame if it hadn't made it.
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chuckdee said:
I dropped mine down to PDF only. I get a bit suspicious when they get that much funding in the last 6 hours...
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Glad I waited, since the two digital books are now $27.50 on Drivethru instead of $40 on Kickstarter.
 
Veidt said:
Glad I waited, since the two digital books are now $27.50 on Drivethru instead of $40 on Kickstarter.
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People don't seem to realize that doing that makes people not back them again. I know I won't be.

EDIT: I just checked the price I paid for the PDF on the Kickstarter, and its the same as DTRPG. If you went all in ($40) you got the GM inserts and the Digital Map also, which are not included in that bundle, and from talking with him, he seemed to think it was worth a bit more than I thought it was. So he's been spared of my righteous indignation, and the bundle on DTRPG is pretty much spot on in the pricing, though it would have been nice if he'd had that bundle on the Kickstarter without the map/gm inserts.
 
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chuckdee said:
People don't seem to realize that doing that makes people not back them again. I know I won't be.

EDIT: I just checked the price I paid for the PDF on the Kickstarter, and its the same as DTRPG. If you went all in ($40) you got the GM inserts and the Digital Map also, which are not included in that bundle, and from talking with him, he seemed to think it was worth a bit more than I thought it was. So he's been spared of my righteous indignation, and the bundle on DTRPG is pretty much spot on in the pricing, though it would have been nice if he'd had that bundle on the Kickstarter without the map/gm inserts.
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The GM inserts and digital map should have been free with a $30 PDF bundle for the two books, rather than bumping the price of said bundle to $40. Seems like basic marketing to me, but what do I know.
 
Greetings Travelers

Posting to share the link for the campaign my company is running on Kickstarter. As of tomorrow, there will be three weeks left in the campaign:



Here is also an excerpt from a blog post on our company website about the game:
"Songs of Vulneria our upcoming fantasy Tabletop RPG, inspired by the historical events of the late medieval and early modern periods of our own history. In which you will experience the rise and fall of kingdoms, war and intrigue, as well as the introduction and development of new technologies. The game focuses on a skill-based character creation system that emphasizes versatility and customizability to create the character that you want to make. In SoV, a character’s backstory is central to character creation, encouraging role-playing while still allowing for meaningful decision making. Accessibility is also core to the system; all that a player needs is a pen, a piece of paper, and a single D20."

We also have a blog on our company website where we make posts about the game and it's setting.

Blog | Harbor Games

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If you have any interest or want to support us, any amount given is greatly appreciated. If you donate $20 or more, we also offer a free digital copy of the core rulebook upon it's release; planned for the 2023 Holiday season. Funds donated go towards paying artists to illustrate the core rulebook.

Thank you.
 
Necrozius said:
This just launched:



Even though I don't have the latest Middle Earth RPG for 5e (I have everything for Adventures in Middle Earth), I've heard mostly good things. Plus I really wanted Moria for that game.

So I'm backing it. That massive cloth map and that John Howe print are pretty sweet.
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I wasn't going to back it, as I wanted to wait for the 5E version instead, but I saw on FB a graphic that showed the two versions side by side. Turns out you can pick one or the other version (and add in the other one if you like) so I could back the 5E one right away. I thought they would wait until the one was finished to create the other, and was happy that they combined them into one KS. :grin:
 
finarvyn said:
I wasn't going to back it, as I wanted to wait for the 5E version instead, but I saw on FB a graphic that showed the two versions side by side. Turns out you can pick one or the other version (and add in the other one if you like) so I could back the 5E one right away. I thought they would wait until the one was finished to create the other, and was happy that they combined them into one KS. :grin:
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I just did this as well !!!
LOTRO 5E version of Moria backed, with some 5E add-ons :thumbsup:
 
Does anyone feel anyway that that they named the two versions two totally different things? It just seems confusing to me.
 
chuckdee said:
Does anyone feel anyway that that they named the two versions two totally different things? It just seems confusing to me.
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That’s how the whole line has been so far. Same setting content but different system, different name. Pretty confusing. I just get the TOR stuff and hope they don’t release unique content for AiME.
 
CRKrueger said:
That’s how the whole line has been so far. Same setting content but different system, different name. Pretty confusing. I just get the TOR stuff and hope they don’t release unique content for AiME.
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Is that any different than one version of a setting or module for 5E and one for OSR?
 
sharps54 said:
Is that any different than one version of a setting or module for 5E and one for OSR?
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It is when you name them totally different. It's not releasing it for different systems - it's naming the games completely different that's the problem.
 
chuckdee said:
It is when you name them totally different. It's not releasing it for different systems - it's naming the games completely different that's the problem.
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It’s a bit confusing but C7 did the same thing for AiME and TOR 1e, so I guess it’s a tradition now.

At least releasing both versions at the same time makes things somewhat less confusing.
 
TOR 2e looks interesting (I have the core rules and intro box). But I plan to stick with the LotR 5e line going forward.

I don’t have any deep system-related reason for doing so. It’s just familiarity and ease of use. I ran a great campaign using AiME a few years ago, know the system reasonably well (LotR is the revised/updated version of AiME), and am happy to stick with “what works” for me.

The TOR 2e books do have the better covers, though…
 
Akrasia said:
It’s a bit confusing but C7 did the same thing for AiME and TOR 1e, so I guess it’s a tradition now.

At least releasing both versions at the same time makes things somewhat less confusing.
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I think it makes it more confusing later. Someone talking about title X for the game, and you're like, did I pick that up?
 
I figure it’s done to help reduce the number of people who buy the book for the wrong system and complain when it’s not what they thought they were getting.

If they’re both named the same thing, you have to pay attention to the details to make sure you get the right one. And a great many people are really bad at paying attention to the details.

But if the 5E one has a different name, blogs and YouTube channels focused on 5E can just refer to that one name, and gamers know exactly which book to buy. Same with the TOR 2E books.
 
Andrew J. Luther said:
I figure it’s done to help reduce the number of people who buy the book for the wrong system and complain when it’s not what they thought they were getting.

If they’re both named the same thing, you have to pay attention to the details to make sure you get the right one. And a great many people are really bad at paying attention to the details.

But if the 5E one has a different name, blogs and YouTube channels focused on 5E can just refer to that one name, and gamers know exactly which book to buy. Same with the TOR 2E books.
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I just think it could have the opposite effect. Oh this thing named differently is TOR...
 
chuckdee said:
I just think it could have the opposite effect. Oh this thing named differently is TOR...
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Oh absolutely, you’re probably correct. I’m just guessing that might be the reason they did it.

The truth is there’s no real way to avoid having to deal with the complaints of stupid people, so some portion of their customers are still going to buy the wrong version no matter what they do.
 
UnplayedRanger said:
How is Free League’s version of the 5e rules, and why do you prefer it over the TOR ones?
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5E in general has an emphasis on spellcasting, but the Middle-earth version of 5E does not. They have some different classes with a Middle-earth feel that you use instead of the ones in the traditional 5E PH. They tweaked a couple of the skills to represent foraging and not getting lost, as a lot of Tolkien's writings seem to focus on folks wandering in the wilderness. They restructured the power levels so that the game caps at level 10 instead of 5E's usual level 20. The overall feel of the rules is a Middle-earth feel.

I haven't really played TOR, even though I have owned a bunch of the rulebooks and such since 1E first came out. The TOR 2E is certainly cleaned up and folks I talk to say it's better than 1E. We play the 5E version mostly because my players know 5E and don't want to try anything new that makes them learn new rules. :tongue:

Overall, I think that Free League has hit a home run with this. I bought the TOR 2E starter set and core rulebook in the original KS because I wanted to send a message that they should explore the 5E version (which, as I understand it, would only launch if there was enough TOR interest), so I own both and think the quality is fantastic for each. The rulebooks are very similar in style and such, so I don't think I will continue buying both formats. However, sometimes I just like to buy stuff, so who knows. :smile:
 
If you want a deadlier game, more die sizes, or for every roll to be opposed this might be for you!

 
sharps54 said:
If you want a deadlier game, more die sizes, or for every roll to be opposed this might be for you!

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No PDFs, oh well.
The QuickStart looks like a game from the 70’s.
These guys are really trying to get me to ignore this. So far I get a serious Heartbreaker vibe.
 
CRKrueger said:
No PDFs, oh well.
The QuickStart looks like a game from the 70’s.
These guys are really trying to get me to ignore this. So far I get a serious Heartbreaker vibe.
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Well they have PDFs in some of the tiers just not available by themselves :hmmm:
 
CRKrueger said:
No PDFs, oh well.
The QuickStart looks like a game from the 70’s.
These guys are really trying to get me to ignore this. So far I get a serious Heartbreaker vibe.
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BTW they just answered a question about PDFs:
“Yes. We will be adding a couple tiers for pdf bundles of both editions”
So at least they are somewhat receptive to requests.
 
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