A couple years ago, I tried running Starfinder for my 2 sons because they loved the art. We didn't get very far because, well, I'm past wanting to deal with Pathfinder-level detail for a play experience that doesn't match (i.e., I have no issue with crunch, but I want to feel like the crunch pays off at the table). After it failed, my older son (now just about 17) wandered away from role-playing (which is disappointing to the dad who has played non-stop for 45 years).
Today he brought up Starfinder again and said he'd still like to play something *like* that, which he described as "space D&D." What systems might I explore to re-consider this idea? Things I'd like or need:
1) Gun porn and gear porn are a *must.*
2) Must have playable alien races.
3) Ideally has some form of spaceship combat.
4) Some form of character customization is needed, which generally rules out something more OSR-based.
5) "Module" support of some kind would be super-helpful.
Like I said, this basically describes Starfinder; I just don't like the 3.x crunch anymore. Something based on 5th ed would work (they know and like that system), but it doesn't have to be D&D based.
I personally have been looking for an excuse to buy Infinity. My concern there is that I've only read and never played 2d20 and my understanding is that it's pretty cumbersome too. Battlelords sounds like it would fit too, but the same concern about cumbersome crunch seems to fit there too.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Today he brought up Starfinder again and said he'd still like to play something *like* that, which he described as "space D&D." What systems might I explore to re-consider this idea? Things I'd like or need:
1) Gun porn and gear porn are a *must.*
2) Must have playable alien races.
3) Ideally has some form of spaceship combat.
4) Some form of character customization is needed, which generally rules out something more OSR-based.
5) "Module" support of some kind would be super-helpful.
Like I said, this basically describes Starfinder; I just don't like the 3.x crunch anymore. Something based on 5th ed would work (they know and like that system), but it doesn't have to be D&D based.
I personally have been looking for an excuse to buy Infinity. My concern there is that I've only read and never played 2d20 and my understanding is that it's pretty cumbersome too. Battlelords sounds like it would fit too, but the same concern about cumbersome crunch seems to fit there too.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.