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Well. it’s no bait and switch here. They say Teela is front and center and if she is, great. Now would Chris be mad if they said Teela was front and center and it turns out Adam is?
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Well. it’s no bait and switch here. They say Teela is front and center and if she is, great. Now would Chris be mad if they said Teela was front and center and it turns out Adam is?
I love this fallacy. Please, there wouldn't be as much damage control on the various trades if there wasn't enough of the audience that has issues.You must be in contact with a lot of people if you know what most people want.
They say it's a He-Man show, and then remove He-Man. That's not bait and switch? OK.Well. it’s no bait and switch here. They say Teela is front and center and if she is, great. Now would Chris be mad if they said Teela was front and center and it turns out Adam is?
HATED that movie as a kid.I'm just going to go into "wait and see" mode. I hope it's good, but I won't be too concerned if it's not. It will, no matter what, most likely be better than the MOTU movie we got when I was a kid.
HATED that movie as a kid.
Appreciate it more now.
I don’t know if I’ll actually watch this. I find I have a REALLY hard time getting invested in animation as I get older.
I'm not interested in this nonsense. It's just appeasement to toxic views that continue to go unchallenged as a result and have appreciable negative consequences to people and groups. So no, I'm not itnerested in being pleasant to bigots.
I just see Masters of the Universe: Revelation. It’s not He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.
I wish you're right. I sincerely do. I WANT to like this. I WANT to be wrong. Because I would be happy I got a good show!Look, it doesn't matter if the official title is Masters of the Universe or He-Man and the Masters of the Universe, fans of the old He-Man-- any of the old He-Man, because they're all old He-Man now-- are going to expect that the show's going to be about He-Man, and this first (and only, so far) trailer is promising us a show that's going to be first and foremost about He-Man. Maybe less He-Man than the original, to focus more on other characters-- especially Teela, but it looks like Orko's getting his time in the sun too-- but, first and foremost, He-Man.
Unlike Chris Brady, I believe the trailer. But if the trailer is a lie, I'm going to be pissed. And it's fair to speculate, given prior statements, how much of the new He-Man show is going to be about He-Man. I think those concerns are overblown, but they're far from baseless.
I WISH this would be a gritty reboot for adults but it will probably deliver the same banal platitudes we've all heard a million times but reskinned to fit today's dominant cultural paradigms. Still, it looks like they are trying to inject some adult conflict and drama which seems like a good thing to me.I remain unsold thanks in large part to Smith's own comments--about how this takes the innocence of the Filmation cartoon and then "loses that innocence," that it includes stories of "abuse ... isolation [and] grief," and that "We build our entire story on who was left out of the secret [of He-Man's identity] and the damaging trickle-down effects of that" and "how that deception rots at the core."
To be clear, I use the term "gritty" in this discussion to mean harsh and brutal. I hold the unpopular opinion that themes such as nobility, heroism, and virtue are best explored in settings that are harsh and uncompromising. Gritty in this context isn't a code word for "more nudity and violence" or whatever the hell people think it means.
Larry Hama's run was godly.I want it gritty, like 80s G.I.Joe comics gritty. I don’t want He-Man running people through with his power sword.
I just don't see it fitting HeMan. I want it more like Jack Kirby's Fourth World. Colorful weird and a bit silly.I want it gritty, like 80s G.I.Joe comics gritty. I don’t want He-Man running people through with his power sword.
Fun fact, some of the people who worked on the He-Man toy were working on Kirby's 4th World stuff that they were trying to adapt to a toy line for I believe Kenner, but that fell through, so when they were working on He-Man, and like most artists they didn't want their stuff to be tossed, simply adapted it to He-Man. It was a proposal that they had been kicking around since the 70's, but like a lot of stuff that got past over (As Kenner actually got the 4th World stuff for their Superhero toys line of the era) the work that had been sitting around simply got repurposed for the He-Man line, that Mattel wanted to do, as a standalone line of toys.I just don't see it fitting HeMan. I want it more like Jack Kirby's Fourth World. Colorful weird and a bit silly.
In any case I wouldn't trust the entertainment industry to do anything so nuanced.
My major issue is actually the stuff about aiming it at adults. He-Man should be for kids, like it always way. Adults watching it? Cool. I like a lot of fiction aimed at teenagers. But they shouldn't be the focus. And any middle aged man (including myself) who actually thinks they should dictate the direction of a kid's show should be ignored. You don't want to encourage that kind of infantislisation.They could ameliorate the “bait and switch” feel by:
- giving Teela her place on the marquee. “Teela and the Masters of the Universe” or “Masters of the Universe: Tesla’s [whatever]”
- showing Teela a bit more on the teaser trailers
Me, I don’t mind the premise, but I’ll pass judgement until I see the show. Too many great premises die in development.
My major issue is actually the stuff about aiming it at adults. He-Man should be for kids, like it always way. Adults watching it? Cool. I like a lot of fiction aimed at teenagers. But they shouldn't be the focus. And any middle aged man (including myself) who actually thinks they should dictate the direction of a kid's show should be ignored. You don't want to encourage that kind of infantislisation.
Aye, that's what I'm criticising about the new remake. It's a nostalgia fest, not an attempt to do anything decent with the IP.This version is actually being marketed as a nostalgia trip for adults who grew up with the series; the kids' show comes later this year.
I was never a big fan of the original cartoon so if this changes that, all the better. I wanted a more serious tone.
Two things. First, what makes you think it's only middle aged men who used to watch He-Man? There's a reason She-Ra was spun off it (it originally was meant to be Teela's show, but Mattel wanted a whole new line of action dolls for girls, so they made Etheria.)My major issue is actually the stuff about aiming it at adults. He-Man should be for kids, like it always way. Adults watching it? Cool. I like a lot of fiction aimed at teenagers. But they shouldn't be the focus. And any middle aged man (including myself) who actually thinks they should dictate the direction of a kid's show should be ignored. You don't want to encourage that kind of infantislisation.
But there were serious issues in the show. Sure, it was fun and sometimes campy, but as I've posted elsewhere, they had at least two relatively mature story lines. The first, Adam's inability to please his father, because he had to keep the secret of He-Man. This caused friction and anxiety for Adam. Meanwhile King Randor felt frustrated that his son would likely be a weak king. This is something they played straight in the show.If you do want a show that's gritty and adult you should base it on the original artwork and minicomics. He Man is a barbarian, there is no Prince Adam, Beast Man is a Satan figure. Zodak flies around in his chair being cryptic.
The other end of the outlook is that a children's show can still be intelligently written and take the subject matter seriously. Justice League is a great example of this.
I await your Kickstarter campaign.Well, I guess everyone should be glad that I'm not in charge, because if I did a He-Man reboot it would be a giant metaphor for being a closeted gay, with the Skeletor-in-the-closet as the manifestation of Adam's feelings of shame and concern about social acceptance in a hyper-masculine society.