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Urban fantasy. from https://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?761895-After-the-Vampire-Wars-at-GenCon!Yeah, cover isnt great, but big fan of the RQ6/Mythras system. I missed the previous discussion on this product, what's the premise? Looks White Wolf-ish.
Supernatural creatures have always lived among us, hidden in plain sight. Even those who knew of their existence were powerless against them, until the US government launched an attack against vampires in 2005, hoping to exterminate them. The elder vampires fought back, demonstrating powers ordinary humans never suspected. The war quickly spread. The vampires held the world hostage for more than two years with captured nuclear submarines. The Wars only ended when a group of vampires betrayed their own kind and helped to destroy the monsters who sought to control the world.
Today, the supernatural is widely known. There are vampire celebrities, psychic security consultants, and half-fae contract lawyers. Previously hidden magics and strange powers now launch YouTube superstars.
In this new era, humans and supernatural creatures are building a new world together. But the old world lingers - predatory fae lurk in the Otherworld, feeding on dreams and possessing the unwary, while fanatic vampires and humans both work secretly to restart the war. This is the world of After the Vampire Wars.
Just a point of clarification. I will buy the book from TDM whether I like the cover art or not!I’m not a fan either...
Same goes for me.Just a point of clarification. I will buy the book from TDM whether I like the cover art or not!
Both are pretty lackluster in my opinion. Vampiric magician in a warehouse vs. elven/fae(?) celebrity protected by security?The one on the Chaosium version wasn't so great... but IMO it was much better than this.
Has this been presented as the final version?
I'm not into urban fantasy, but if I was, neither of these covers would convince me to buy the product.
I have judged a book (Rpg) by its cover before. In some cases, the cover has so inspired me that I've purchased it without reading the contents. (RuneQuest 3e, released when I was a teenager, and also shrink-wrapped at the store I bought it from. WFRP 1e, too). In other cases, a cover has turned me off to an Rpg, because the artwork looks so amateurish and ridiculous that I'm dubious of the contents (frex, a number of Mongoose releases).I have never bought a book simply based on the cover art.
I like Mythras, I like John Snead, but somehow this one doesn’t grab me. Looks like The Vampire Diaries (didn’t watch) meets Shadowrun (never did play) without the cool bits (guns, cyberware, more guns, vehicles, big guns, the Matrix, some more guns).
I love me some gun porn, and really love those all equipment books for Shadowrun that have all the commentary in the sidebars. I also feel like it’s a dangerous trap. Some of the factors and variables in the weapons seems like they are there only for providing a mechanism to have different guns. Which... well, kind of good side/bad side. Good because more gun porn. Bad because more complexity and more charts to keep track of.
I read the Chaosium version of the book and liked it quite a lot especially in conjunction with Enlightened Magic. However I got a very True Blood / World of Darkness feel for the book. It didn't remind me of Shadowrun at all (though with the new cybernetic rules coming out why not)...I like Mythras, I like John Snead, but somehow this one doesn’t grab me. Looks like The Vampire Diaries (didn’t watch) meets Shadowrun (never did play) without the cool bits (guns, cyberware, more guns, vehicles, big guns, the Matrix, some more guns).
I definitely got the True Blood feel from it, though sharing more in concept and less in execution. World of Darkness if a lot of creatures have come out into a, relatively open, existence.However I got a very True Blood / World of Darkness feel for the book. It didn't remind me of Shadowrun at all (though with the new cybernetic rules coming out why not)...
The new cover seems like a kinda-almost attempt at redoing the Enlightened Magic cover:
Since it was the intended magic system for the original version of After The Vampire Wars I'm curious how much of it Mr. Snead will bring over for this new book.
Without going and looking, I'd assume they are... I see no reason why they wouldn't.Isn’t Chaosium still selling Enlightened Magic?
The new cover seems like a kinda-almost attempt at redoing the Enlightened Magic cover:
Since it was the intended magic system for the original version of After The Vampire Wars I'm curious how much of it Mr. Snead will bring over for this new book.
To be fair, I'm not into urban fantasy either, I didn't even realize that was the new name for "sad sexy vampires," but at least this cover has action and makes me wonder what's going on, what led up to this moment, and what will happen next, whereas the other one is pretty static and dull.Both are pretty lackluster in my opinion. Vampiric magician in a warehouse vs. elven/fae(?) celebrity protected by security?
I'm not into urban fantasy, but if I was, neither of these covers would convince me to buy the product.
I have never bought a book simply based on the cover art. In fact, looking at cover art takes me approximately 2 seconds, while I open the book and look inside, or check the preview.
To be fair, I'm not into urban fantasy either, I didn't even realize that was the new name for "sad sexy vampires," but at least this cover has action and makes me wonder what's going on, what led up to this moment, and what will happen next, whereas the other one is pretty static and dull.
So true...I've bought plenty of books where I'm almost embarrassed by the cover art. Blood of Heroes comes to mind...
View attachment 565 ...simply screams Bad '90s Comic Book, doesn't it? I bought it for some new powers and rules for DC Heroes as it is the same game under a new name and loaded cover to cover with truly terrible artwork.