Raiders of R’lyeh--Any Opinions?

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By any chance, does anyone have a form-fillable version of the Raiders of R'lyeh character sheet?
 
...I think the simples option would be if one of you guys - those who have problems with regular Mythras' fonts - should just look at the preview document and tell us how legible it is? I mean, theorycrafting vs actual...reading:shade:!
 
The font for RoR seems fine to me, as does the font used in the RQ6 core book
But the font used in the Mythras corebook, I can defiantely see the concerns there
Hopefully TDM has got sick of us complaining and will try a larger font whenever a new version/edition of the Mythras core rules gets published
RoR isn't a product of TDM, that's some of the rub, it really should be a Mythras Gateway product

Also...anyone got a copy of a form-fillable RoR character sheet out there?
Just askin' for a friend :grin:
 
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The font for RoR seems fine to me, as does the font used in the RQ6 core book
But the font used in the Mythras corebook, I can defiantely see the concerns there
Hopefully TDM has got sick of us complaining and will try a larger font whenever a new version/edition of the Mythras core rules gets published
RoR isn't a product of TDM, that's some of the rub, it really should be a Mythras Gateway product

Also...anyone got a copy of a form-fillable RoR character sheet out there?
Just askin' for a friend :grin:
I asked because it's such a thick book, which caused me more font angst that it would be one more thick hard on the eyes prick tease of a book that I can't read due to eye fatigue. I can't do more of those books teasing me and not putting out the wonderful mechanics completion that I deserve...
 
I asked because it's such a thick book, which caused me more font angst that it would be one more thick hard on the eyes prick tease of a book that I can't read due to eye fatigue. I can't do more of those books teasing me and not putting out the wonderful mechanics completion that I deserve...
So did you check the preview at Drivethru? I can read the Mythras corebook just fine, so I can't tell you whether RoR would work for you. But I'd like to know as well, because I'm not getting younger:shade:.

Also, I've found that Abyssinica SIL improves legibility without even changing the font size. So maybe we should start pestering TDM for an edition with a different font, instead:grin:?

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Pretty much the best CoC book there is, and easy to make add-ons to it, with various supplements.
The planar beasts are really neat and break down into easy types - and really gave me a Babylon 5 / Star Trek feel, settings wise. And let's face it, Star Trek makes Warhammer 40k rather tame in comparison.
...OK, that last sentence? It needs some clarification, man, it really does:shock:!
(I'm not exactly a Star Trek fan, so I don't remember any monsters there!)

As one of the original kickstarter backers, I have the Gothic B&W edition of Raiders of R'lyeh in both PDF and printed book, but only had the GM Guide & Complete Rules in PDF, that is, until this week.

OMG !!!
I already knew that the GM Guide & Complete Rules had a lot of content, but it wasn’t until seeing it in printed form that I was able to appreciate how much more content there is.

It’s an absolute tome, lots to read, and so thick that it’s almost too cumbersome to casually peruse. It must be about 500 pages of reasonably dense text, then wrap the hardcovers around that. You could basically just bash Cthulhu back to the Outer Realms with this brick!
Riders of R'lyeh' GM Guide: For When Chthulhu Is Rising And You Don't Have A Convenient Steamship:angel:!
i have it in PDF and it is incredibly dense. The hardcover must require a Brawn roll to lift!
Get to the Fitness&Conditioning thread, we'll help you:tongue:!

IIRC, it is not Gateway, but there was an agreement reached and it is free and clear. definitely a good resource if you wanted some Mythos in your Mythras.
Well, I've been looking for a modern horror game for Mythras, so...this has legs!
 
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So did you check the preview at Drivethru? I can read the Mythras corebook just fine, so I can't tell you whether RoR would work for you. But I'd like to know as well, because I'm not getting younger:shade:.

Also, I've found that Abyssinica SIL improves legibility without even changing the font size. So maybe we should start pestering TDM for an edition with a different font, instead:grin:?

Abyssinica-SIL.png




...OK, that last sentence? It needs some clarification, man, it really does:shock:!
(I'm not exactly a Star Trek fan, so I don't remember any monsters there!)


Riders of R'lyeh' GM Guide: For When Chthulhu Is Rising And You Don't Have A Convenient Steamship:angel:!

Get to the Fitness&Conditioning thread, we'll help you:tongue:!


Well, I've been looking for a modern horror game for Mythras, so...this has legs!
I need to check out the preview. :thumbsup: didn't even think of that. Lol
 
I need to check out the preview. :thumbsup: didn't even think of that. Lol
Went and checked out the preview. One word.... "Nice!" Second word... "Ordered". We will see how the hardcover printing works out. The Lyonesse book from DriveThruRpg was a fail due to how thick it was. Had to send them pictures etc because it came out of the box falling apart along the spine. It wasn't set properly basically from what I could tell.

DriveThruRpg doesn't deal well with books over 400 pages maybe even less than that. I've noted that all of my under 300 page books are fine, but these thicker ones... not so much.
 
DriveThruRpg doesn't deal well with books over 400 pages maybe even less than that. I've noted that all of my under 300 page books are fine, but these thicker ones... not so much.
Yeah, as much as I'd like a hardcopy of RoR I don't want that crappy DTRPG binding on anything that thick.
 
Yeah, as much as I'd like a hardcopy of RoR I don't want that crappy DTRPG binding on anything that thick.
I recommend just buying the abridged version (Gothic B&W edition) in hardcover, and getting the full version (GM Guide & Complete Edition) in pdf.
Best of both worlds :thumbsup:
 
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I recommend just buying the abridged version (Gothic B&W edition) in hardcover, and getting the full version (GM Guide & Complete Edition) in pdf.

Best of both worlds :thumbsup:
Yeah, but the part I actually want/need to read is in the GM edition...:grin:

So, is there a Lulu edition? Or even offset print?
 
I need to check out the preview. :thumbsup: didn't even think of that. Lol

Went and checked out the preview. One word.... "Nice!" Second word... "Ordered". We will see how the hardcover printing works out. The Lyonesse book from DriveThruRpg was a fail due to how thick it was. Had to send them pictures etc because it came out of the box falling apart along the spine. It wasn't set properly basically from what I could tell.

DriveThruRpg doesn't deal well with books over 400 pages maybe even less than that. I've noted that all of my under 300 page books are fine, but these thicker ones... not so much.
So, what you're telling us is, we can direct people who like Mythras, but not the fonts, towards RoR:shade:?

If so, would you check the Destined preview as well:thumbsup:?
 
So, what you're telling us is, we can direct people who like Mythras, but not the fonts, towards RoR:shade:?

If so, would you check the Destined preview as well:thumbsup:?
Yes, if they want readable rules. :evil:

Triumvir Triumvir I'm being a guinea pig for that since I ordered the hardback/pdf combo with that very intention. Of course Raleel will probably have it and be able to give us that information. :smile: Honestly my experience has been that anything over 300 pages tends to be iffy print quality wise if coming from DriveThruRpg.
 
I think i do. i'll check when i get home. Mine is nearly brand new. what would you like to know?
Cheers mate. Just any feedback on the print quality really. I don't have much experience ordering hardcopy from drivethru. Folks are saying the binding on large books can be a bit ropey, and RoR GM Guide is clearly a large book.
 
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Pictures of text taken roughly at reading distance, no zoom. These are pretty much brand new and not any table use. They are both monsters, coming in at around 500 for core and a couple dozen pages more for tideless sea.
 
The printed book does look great, though at the same time those large books printed by DriveThru, the binding holding all those pages to the cover is just a single moderately thick'ish piece of paper. Not a true traditional book binding.

It's a shame the aren't able to, or don't offer a better binding option. Perhaps the tech just isn't there yet for a printing press printer capable of making a book with a better/stronger binding.


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The printed book does look great, though at the same time those large books printed by DriveThru, the binding holding all those pages to the cover is just a single moderately thick'ish piece of paper. Not a true traditional book binding.

It's a shame the aren't able to, or don't offer a better binding option. Perhaps the tech just isn't there yet for a printing press printer capable of making a book with a better/stronger binding.


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or the tech is there and the tech is horrendously expensive, which is my guess. Like a few years back when hero forge did their color mini kickstarter - a good chunk of that was actually just to buy infrastructure AFAIK. The printers were VERY pricey - $250k pricey.

AFAIK, hardcovers from DTRPG are case bound, which appears to be what most major thick books are. I'm no expert though.
 
Thanks for the pics. I expect I will be picking it up with some reservations over durability. Admittedly, I'm unlikely to use the book at table anyway (I would probably print off key references for use in game and/or have my laptop open).

I guess I'm spoiled by these leatherette special editions you get these days.

This will probably get me kicked out of the pub but I don't get the font problem with Mythras, and my eyesight isn't what it was.

By the way, that was a wee bit more gun porn than I was expecting in RoR.
 
Is there an example of that infamous Mythras font somewhere?
 
Mythras just needs a small makeover and it’ll be chef’s kiss. Some better fonts, a dash of color art inside and presto.
i think it needs a bit more than that, but would definitely take these things :smile:
 
The printed book does look great, though at the same time those large books printed by DriveThru, the binding holding all those pages to the cover is just a single moderately thick'ish piece of paper. Not a true traditional book binding.

It's a shame the aren't able to, or don't offer a better binding option. Perhaps the tech just isn't there yet for a printing press printer capable of making a book with a better/stronger binding.


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I found that Gorilla Glue carefully applied fixed my Mythras Lyoness book when it came in all falling apart.
 
Thanks for the pics. I expect I will be picking it up with some reservations over durability. Admittedly, I'm unlikely to use the book at table anyway (I would probably print off key references for use in game and/or have my laptop open).

I guess I'm spoiled by these leatherette special editions you get these days.

This will probably get me kicked out of the pub but I don't get the font problem with Mythras, and my eyesight isn't what it was.

By the way, that was a wee bit more gun porn than I was expecting in RoR.
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Is there an example of that infamous Mythras font somewhere?
Blammo's post doesn't do it justice. The thinness of the font combined with the fade of the ink style and the ligatures on the font make my eyes fatigue within a few pages. More than once the Mythras core book has made me fall asleep due to eye fatigue. It's tragic really because it makes the books unuseable for me at least and I am not the only one who complains, you can read complaints on DriveThruRpg as well. BTW I noted recently that the poor scans of GDW's 1st edition Twilight 2000 and 1st edition Palladium Fantasy Rpg were more readable. How sad is that? I read through both core books with no issues in comparison and they are poor scans.
 
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Blammo's post doesn't do it justice. The thinness of the font combined with the fade of the ink style and the ligatures on the font make my eyes fatigue within a few pages. More than once the Mythras core book has made me fall asleep due to eye fatigue. It's tragic really because it makes the books unuseable for me at least and I am not the only one who complains, you can read complaints on DriveThruRpg as well. BTW I noted recently that the poor scans of GDW's 1st edition Twilight 2000 and 1st edition Palladium Fantasy Rpg were more readable. How sad is that? I read through both core books with no issues in comparison and they are poor scans.
I found the example convincing enough. Before that, I figured it might have more to do with some eyesight issue of yours. You still might want to get them checked, though.
 
Since we're discussing Drivethru bindings for thick books, what are softcover bindings there like? I'm considering getting the second edition of Clockwork and Chivalry, and it only costs $5 more to get softbound + pdf as opposed to pdf alone.
 
i think it needs a bit more than that, but would definitely take these things :smile:
Larger font, and full colour artwork for the chapter openers, and a less cluttered character sheet (something between Imperative and the Core sheets).

Perhaps the incidental examples in the book just could be set in Mythic Greece instead of Meeros, or go with their own ancient world setting if Thennla (if deciding Thennla, then it needs to be more supported with an expanded full line of books as the 'default' fantasy setting for Mythras)
 
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Larger font, and full colour artwork for the chapter openers, and a less cluttered character sheet (something between Imperative and the Core sheets).

Perhaps the incidental examples in the book just need to be set in Mythic Greece instead of Meeros, of go with or Thennla (if deciding Thennla, then it needs to be more supported with an expanded full line of books as the 'default' fantasy setting for Mythras)
You’ve read my master plan though!
 
Is now an appropriate (or inappropriate) time to check again if anyone has any form-fillable versions of the Mythras Imperative and Raiders of R'lyeh character sheets floating around?

Asking for a friend again :grin:
 
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