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I think it’s disgusting but there’s nothing to do about it. Buyers need to be educated and look into things.
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You'd struggle to get anything for a 10K deposit anywhere in the Southeast here.The 500 range is harsh, but concievable at least, for a game that was rare even when it first came out. 10K pounds though? I could put a downpayment on a mcmansion with that
I think they are mostly profiting from gamers who don't know better. That said, perhaps they are offering a service that you can order and get your book quicker than POD. Perhaps they also offer a service as being more trustworthy in some minds for being an eBay seller rather than DTRPG, though my feeling is DTRPG is probably actually lower risk than eBay sellers, but maybe the guarantees eBay makes tip the risk scale.I was window shopping on ebay when I came across a seller who was selling a DTRPG reprint book for about twice what DTRPG sells it for. To be fair, they do say that it's a reprint, but they don't say where the got it. I see this kind of thing a lot when browsing for RPGs, so I continued on.
Then I saw another listing. It was another reprint book. It was also about double the DTRPG price. The listing did describe it as a reprint, but no information on where it originally came from.
Then another, and another, and another. All were by the same seller. So I looked at their store.
They seem to do pretty brisk business reselling DTRPG POD books. It seems they price them about 150% to 200%, charge a bit of shipping, and list LOTS of titles. The images all seem to be of items in hand by the seller, and there don't seem to be any provisions in the listing for large shipping delays. So, I guess they just order tons of books from DTRPG and resell them.
Most of their feedback is positive, except for one where the buyer seems to have realized that they were paying collector's prices for a POD version.
Obviously, I'm not harmed by this. I haven't bought from them, and don't have any immediate intentions of doing so. So, I have no dog in this fight. But is their practice a good or a bad thing? Are they providing a reasonable service in some way I don't see? Or are they just profiting on gamers who don't know the place they could buy this stuff for cheaper?
Foresight only works if you are alive and interested when said item is released.I think they are mostly profiting from gamers who don't know better. That said, perhaps they are offering a service that you can order and get your book quicker than POD. Perhaps they also offer a service as being more trustworthy in some minds for being an eBay seller rather than DTRPG, though my feeling is DTRPG is probably actually lower risk than eBay sellers, but maybe the guarantees eBay makes tip the risk scale.
The truth is that our modern world makes arbitrage (re-selling) very easy. In my other hobby, Lego, there's a huge business in buying clearance Lego and reselling the now discontinued sets at a markup. Others buy newly released sets and sell them at a markup because they are out of stock in part due to the resellers...
The only way reselling will stop being price gouging is when people wake up and either have patience (wait until the excitement has died down and the new release is available in good quantity and maybe even on sale, be willing to wait for POD delivery time) or foresight (buy the Lego set before it's discontinued, wait for a sale if you want), and for folks to become better educated about where they can purchase things.
But if you weren't alive when the item was released (or otherwise in a position to purchase), then you aren't getting screwed by resellers. In that case, the reseller is giving you access to something that otherwise would just be gone, at that point, natural supply and demand is in play.Foresight only works if you are alive and interested when said item is released.
Education and infinite supply are probably the only way to avoid it.
I see a fair bit of that with older wargame miniatures, where I know the figure is still being made but the Seller advertises it as OOP for an exorbitant price. Maybe they aren't aware... but I'm pretty sure some of them are sourcing from the current castings.Go check out Thieves Guild books and them go to the Different Worlds website. You could do a reasonable trade in buying their shrink-wrapped Haven boxed set and reselling it.
Can you share a link to them?They seem to do pretty brisk business reselling DTRPG POD books. It seems they price them about 150% to 200%, charge a bit of shipping, and list LOTS of titles. The images all seem to be of items in hand by the seller, and there don't seem to be any provisions in the listing for large shipping delays. So, I guess they just order tons of books from DTRPG and resell them.
I suppose but these are now official WotC reprints. They've outsourced it to DTRPG to manage and fulfill but that's WotC's official rep now.Even if these eBay sellers advertise the product as a reprint, some buyers assume it was a reprint done by the original publisher, such as the Wizards 3.5E reprints a few years back. They might not assume they are POD.
Handcrafted, hand-sewn book.Looks like durable shoe lace binding.
Artisan even.Handcrafted, hand-sewn book.
Small batchArtisan even.
That one should be reported to eBay...How about a xeroxed copy of Street Fighter with page protectors in a binder?
Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game (White Wolf) Printed, Sleeved | eBay
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How about a xeroxed copy of Street Fighter with page protectors in a binder?
Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game (White Wolf) Printed, Sleeved | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game (White Wolf) Printed, Sleeved at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!www.ebay.com
That's not even Street Fighter. It's the fan created "20th Anniversary Edition" I made about 6 years ago! Holy shit! Never did I imagine copies of my fan compilation getting bootlegged on eBay. It's amazing. Hehehe.How about a xeroxed copy of Street Fighter with page protectors in a binder?
Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game (White Wolf) Printed, Sleeved | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Street Fighter: The Storytelling Game (White Wolf) Printed, Sleeved at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!www.ebay.com
Looks like you've made it big!That's not even Street Fighter. It's the fan created "20th Anniversary Edition" I made about 6 years ago! Holy shit! Never did I imagine copies of my fan compilation getting bootlegged on eBay. It's amazing. Hehehe.
I'm impressed that they went with a four-hole punch over the more pedestrian three-hole punch.Handcrafted, hand-sewn book.
That's where the mark up comes from.I'm impressed that they went with a four-hole punch over the more pedestrian three-hole punch.
I had that set when I was younger. I hope you enjoy reading about trees.I just payed $153 plus shipping for a good condition, complete copy of the original 1983 Greyhawk Boxed set. So I guess I can't say anything but here goes.
It's sad to see prices spiking, but it's the inevitable consequence of an ever increasing pool of buyer chasing a fixed supply of product already suffering from 30+ years of natural wastage. Just be very, very careful of POD scams. If you want original stuff, be prepared to pay for it.
On whole, I found that set really disappointing as a kid, but I really wish I still had the map.I had that set when I was younger. I hope you enjoy reading about trees.
Kidding aside, I did like the poster maps. I was a huge sucker for poster maps back in those days.
I think I saw that listing. It has gone for cheaper, but it has also gone for a lot more. You got about a middle of the road deal. It's been in about that price range for a long time.
I just payed $153 plus shipping for a good condition, complete copy of the original 1983 Greyhawk Boxed set. So I guess I can't say anything but here goes.
It's sad to see prices spiking, but it's the inevitable consequence of an ever increasing pool of buyer chasing a fixed supply of product already suffering from 30+ years of natural wastage. Just be very, very careful of POD scams. If you want original stuff, be prepared to pay for it.
I have the PDF and I've noticed the tree fixation.I had that set when I was younger. I hope you enjoy reading about trees.
Kidding aside, I did like the poster maps. I was a huge sucker for poster maps back in those days.
I think I saw that listing. It has gone for cheaper, but it has also gone for a lot more. You got about a middle of the road deal. It's been in about that price range for a long time.
I bought a used, but good condition copy a few years back for somewhere in the neighborhood of $20-$50. Can't remember exactly, but I know I didn't pay a whole lot for it like 5 years ago. The Greyhawk boxed set shot up in price recently and I'm not sure why.Bizarre as I when I was a kid it was a dime a dozen and I gave my mint copy away to a thrift store.
As someone who liked SAGA and hated RCR... they are significantly different.Star Wars SAGA is overpriced when you can just get all the RCR books for usually less than half the price and they aren’t the annoying size of the SAGA books. The two systems are not that different.
As someone who liked SAGA and hated RCR... they are significantly different.
That said, buying them second hand is stupidly expensive. There is a reason I sold off mine even though I like the game, I made good money selling them.