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I think replacing Frank Oz's handiwork or the craft of the modelmakers and matte painters, with cgi was a graver sin.
 

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The Yoda puppet in TPM was an abomination. I’m glad it was replaced by CGI.
:shock: That one looked so horrible, I THOUGHT it was cgi!

Edit: my bad... I mixed up TLJ and TPM. Bloody acronyms. How do they work!?
 
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The puppet they used in TLJ was from the mold they used for TESB. I remember some fans complaining about that, but they must have also complained about Yoda in the OT as well.
 

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:shock: That one looked so horrible, I THOUGHT it was cgi!
No, that’s an actual puppet. Some behind the scenes show Frank Oz controlling the puppet from a hole they had in the stage, similar to the OT and later used in TLJ. It was an all new design; they didn’t use the original mold.

Mark actually got teary-eyed when they filmed the scene in TLJ, seeing the puppet and Frank again.

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I am fairly casual about Star Wars. I wouldn't have even noticed the whole Han shot first thing if my roleplayer friends hadn't pointed it out. Likewise in never imagined the Bounty Hunter #4 in the cool armour had a name, a following and eventually his own TV series.

But there is one thing I have feeling that was changed, but no one I know seems able to confirm it. I have a feeling that, in the final sequence of Return of the Jedi, at the Ewok camp, there was a different song playing in the old verision, something fun and catchy which got replaced in latter versions. I am just making this up or did that really happen?
 

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I am fairly casual about Star Wars. I wouldn't have even noticed the whole Han shot first thing if my roleplayer friends hadn't pointed it out. Likewise in never imagined the Bounty Hunter #4 in the cool armour had a name, a following and eventually his own TV series.

But there is one thing I have feeling that was changed, but no one I know seems able to confirm it. I have a feeling that, in the final sequence of Return of the Jedi, at the Ewok camp, there was a different song playing in the old verision, something fun and catchy which got replaced in latter versions. I am just making this up or did that really happen?

I don't get worked up about Star Wars either. All three episodes were pretty good in my book.
 

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I have a feeling that, in the final sequence of Return of the Jedi, at the Ewok camp, there was a different song playing in the old verision, something fun and catchy which got replaced in latter versions. I am just making this up or did that really happen?
The same happened with the song played by the band at Jabba's palace. They replaced the fun space disco song Lapti Nek with a sucky song and added sucky, overly cartoony cgi characters to the band line-up.
 
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I don't get worked up about Star Wars either. All three episodes were pretty good in my book.
Can't make my mind whether you are genuniely casual or if this is a very subtle dig at prequesls & sequels.

Either way, respect.
 

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I am fairly casual about Star Wars. I wouldn't have even noticed the whole Han shot first thing if my roleplayer friends hadn't pointed it out. Likewise in never imagined the Bounty Hunter #4 in the cool armour had a name, a following and eventually his own TV series.

But there is one thing I have feeling that was changed, but no one I know seems able to confirm it. I have a feeling that, in the final sequence of Return of the Jedi, at the Ewok camp, there was a different song playing in the old verision, something fun and catchy which got replaced in latter versions. I am just making this up or did that really happen?

There was different music in the 1983 release, but anyone who prefers the original track has a tin ear for music.
 

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Hooded robes are pretty common in Star Wars. Jedi wear them. Desert dwellers wear them. Princess Leia wears one at the beginning of ANH, and the Emperor wears one.

In real life, kachabias (a real-life version of Jedi robes worn in North Africa) are popular to this day among not only commoners, but people from every walk of life:

robes 1.png robes 2.jpg

This includes Allied officers and enlisted men serving in North Africa during WW2.
 

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I like to imagine that the brown robes were just the fashion 19 years ago and Uncle Owen and Obi Wan are trapped on fashionless Tatooine while Yoda is stuck living in a swamp far away from any clothing shop.
I recall reading somewhere that a nun's habit was just a normal, conservative way for women to dress at one point. Fashion moved on but dress codes for nun's stayed the same.
 

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"Hooded cloaks" are definitely not the Kimonos that everyone is talking about
 

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I got through the full thing. He very conspicuously avoided addressing any points made by the critics

The critics didn't make any points.

his foundational argument seemed to be that since there were different sound mixes before the original wide release that the changes in the special editions couldn't/shouldn't be criticized

You must have been watching a Special Edition of Worley's video, since that's a total mangling of his case:

  • There were different versions of Star Wars with different sound AND dialogue, depending on which theater you saw it in back in 1977. There's no more rational reason to get one's panties in a bigger twist over when Solo fires his gun than whether C3PO explains how to deactivate the tractor beam (something included in the mono mix and most home video versions). The later changes are just as trivial.
  • Other artists (especially filmmakers) make much more substantial changes to their works without mouth-breathing "critics" squealing about it.
 

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The critics didn't make any points.

lol, OK.

Pull the other one mate, it has bells on it.


  • The later changes are just as trivial.
  • Other artists (especially filmmakers) make much more substantial changes to their works without mouth-breathing "critics" squealing about it.

Sorry, I dont agree with you. But that's fine. It was a 3 1/2 hour video preaching to the converted, not a rebuttal or a counterpoint. So it looks like you were the intended audience for that - I'm not. f it's what you want to believe - the changes made in the special editions were "trivial", you're welcome to that belief. For myself, Worly's videos occupy the same space as "Ring Theory"....
 
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