WandaVision Spoiler Thread

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If they ever have the chance to do something like WandaVision again, I have a suggestion...

For some reason, Wanda and a few other folks from Earth hitch a ride with the Guardians of the Galaxy.

Something along the lines happens to Wanda--maybe a psychic attack, a poison, eating those treats that caused the Daisy and Simmons on Agents of SHELD to hallucinate, whatever...anyway...

The GoTG cargo hold to the ship becomes the Muppets' Theater. :shade:

Because, that would be epic. (And Kermit would never feel more at home around so many green folks too!)
 
Nah, I'm not watching Legends anymore--I got tired of it the sillier it got.

And I'm talking about interacting with the Muppets (who are big stars and both Muppets and Marvel are Disney owned), not anybody getting turned into a puppet themselves. (The latter has actually been done a few too many times for my taste). Been really enjoying watching the original Muppet Show on Disney+, that's my motivation there.
 
If they ever have the chance to do something like WandaVision again, I have a suggestion...

For some reason, Wanda and a few other folks from Earth hitch a ride with the Guardians of the Galaxy.

Something along the lines happens to Wanda--maybe a psychic attack, a poison, eating those treats that caused the Daisy and Simmons on Agents of SHELD to hallucinate, whatever...anyway...

The GoTG cargo hold to the ship becomes the Muppets' Theater. :shade:

Because, that would be epic. (And Kermit would never feel more at home around so many green folks too!)
Well, Rocket would definitely work with Statler and Waldorf.

JG
 
Nah, I'm not watching Legends anymore--I got tired of it the sillier it got.

And I'm talking about interacting with the Muppets (who are big stars and both Muppets and Marvel are Disney owned), not anybody getting turned into a puppet themselves. (The latter has actually been done a few too many times for my taste). Been really enjoying watching the original Muppet Show on Disney+, that's my motivation there.
Parodies of the Muppets just end up reminding me how incredibly talented Henson and his crew were, and how hard that is to imitate.
 
Well, it's midnight Pacific time, and Disney+ seems to be jammed...
 
Decent enough ending.

Was hoping for a Dr. Strange cameo, but alas...

Two after credit scenes, neither especially interesting. Sad we only got to see Darcy once, inside a truck for the finale. Wonder where the new Vision flew off to, and with his restored memories why he didn't seek out Wanda himself.

Bladerunner easter egg at the end made me smile.
 
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That was a satisfying ending, though like others are going to say, the lack of cameos or no other twists might be disappointing.

I am curious why they chose Agatha to be the villain. That may wait to be explained. I was hoping we'd see Senor Scratchy--Agatha in the comics had a black cat named Ebony that could grow into a giant. Figured they'd do something with the bunny. Agatha seems to be in the role of Modred the Mystic, a villain who was a pawn/servant of Chthon, who wrote the Darkhold.

And I'm curious what happened--Agatha was turned into Agnes, but she's not a neighbor to them anymore and with the hex gone--wonder what her state is.

I think "Cataract Vision" left things open--he now has all the memories and perhaps the emotions of the original now, and it's a way for them to continue on. As for why he hasn't chased Wanda--well, I assume Wanda is isolating herself, she can do that with magic--and perhaps Vision knows that if he leaves SWORD suddenly he's going to get attention.

Not entirely sure what the aftermath will be. I think because of Wanda's powers, she did the right thing leaving and isolating, as I think locking her away might do more harm that good. But I am surprised at the lack of reaction from the agencies. SWORD had gone rogue, the FBI itself isn't really that high ranking--the biggest issue for me is, where's any of the other heroes. I've justified the fact that this takes place maybe 6 weeks or so after the end of Endgame, and the state of them is probably very limited--Iron Man and Black Widow dead, Cap effectively out of the game, Hulk still wounded from using the gauntlet--but there's still a few people who could have been called like Hawkeye, Rhodey--I mean these were her friends and teammates, plus they'd want to intervene in general to prevent somebody from becoming the villain. Maybe that will be addressed elsewhere.

Mid-Credits Scene I wasn't expecting--I think it's opening things up for Captain Marvel 2 or Secret Warriors.

End-Credits Scene--that was weird--Wanda walking while "Scarlet Witch" is in some kind of meditative/studying state. And the cries from the kids--I knew they weren't going to end Wiccan and Speed's story there.
 
That’s what I was looking for too. Kind of expected an arrival and “well, let’s have a talk”. Seems like a giant magical anomaly would attract the magical defense forces pretty damn quick.

I guess they already did that with Thor, so they didn't want to repeat themselves.
 
I think they wrapped up the story pretty well but it looks like SW is likely to be the villain of the Next Dr.Strange. Probably doing something wacky to bring back her kids and open the door to all manner of realities.
 
Two after credit scenes, neither especially interesting.
That first one, combined with the one from Far from Home has some very interesting possibilities. It gives an inkling of what comes after SHIELD. It's a very cool callback to the one in Iron Man.

Wonder where the new Vision flew off to, and with his restored memories why he didn't seek out Wanda himself.

I wondered about that too.

but it looks like SW is likely to be the villain of the Next Dr.Strange.

I didn't read it that way, especially with the Darkhold being present. I think the villain of the next Dr. Strange is going to be indicated by the place where the Darkhold was created, i.e. the Dark Dimension. I think they're going there. I just hope that Clea is a part of that journey.
 
I don't think they are planning to make her a villain. Or at least I hope not. The MCU is likely to embrace her magical side, as they've focused on that a lot over the years, most recently with the Scarlet Witch series by James Robinson. It's obvious they will not be going the mutant route with her.

The Darkhold had nothing to do with Dormammu in the comics and didn't come from the Dark Dimension. It was always a being called Chthon. I'm not sure what they will do in the MCU regarding the Darkhold and Agatha's potential patron--but I really don't think they will bring back Dormammu for the sequel, as there are so many other villains available.

ETA--though I do realize now she's reading the Darkhold at the end--reading that book is not recommended for obvious reasons...
 
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It was always a being called Chthon.

In the comics. In the MCU, it was the Dark Dimension, where Ghost Rider went in the Agents of SHIELD, and where Aida pulled the knowledge from in that same bit. It is an amalgamation of all the different planes in the MCU, probably to simplify decades of lore.

We've seen it other places in the MCU also- from Cloak and Dagger to the Runaways, continuing with that melange of dimensions as the Vudu and Loa are also contained there, i.e. D'Spayre's dimension is there.
 
Well now.

On one hand, Wanda's finally dealt with all the grief that she's been carrying. On the other hand, she's trying to fast-track herself through magic via studying the Darkhold. That's certain to end well...

I like that Wanda has no realization that nuVision now has his old memories. I suspect that, much like Byrne's version of the character, he may not have the emotional attachment accompanying those memories.

Would have liked more Darcy, but you can't have everything.

The tease with the voices of the two boys crying for help gives me hope for a Young Avengers story somewhere later down the line.

And we can have Kathryn Hahn back as Agatha at some time in the future. Hahn is just too much fun in the role not to revisit at some later point.
 
So now that Wanda has a costume, maybe she'll give Nat her jacket back... wait....

....


I guess thinking about it, Wanda needs to give Natasha some space, I heard she hit rock bottom a while back.

I'm here all week.
 
Yeah that was a solid ending. Though a bit of a downer, it did offer some hope. I’m glad the story itself felt complete and that the little hints at the end were just that. I feel like I would have been annoyed if this whole thing was simply a prelude to the next Doctor Strange.

All in all, a solid debut for the Disney+ Marvel stuff. Something that managed to be its own thing while also connecting to the larger MCU narrative.
 
Decent enough ending.

Was hoping for a Dr. Strange cameo, but alas...
For those wondering about unexpected appearance was that the media has been talking about through the whole run, it traces back to an old interview with Paul Bettany. He was obliquely referring to the fact that Vision would be in the show despite having died.
Not entirely sure what the aftermath will be. I think because of Wanda's powers, she did the right thing leaving and isolating, as I think locking her away might do more harm that good. But I am surprised at the lack of reaction from the agencies. SWORD had gone rogue, the FBI itself isn't really that high ranking--the biggest issue for me is, where's any of the other heroes. I've justified the fact that this takes place maybe 6 weeks or so after the end of Endgame, and the state of them is probably very limited--Iron Man and Black Widow dead, Cap effectively out of the game, Hulk still wounded from using the gauntlet--but there's still a few people who could have been called like Hawkeye, Rhodey--I mean these were her friends and teammates, plus they'd want to intervene in general to prevent somebody from becoming the villain. Maybe that will be addressed elsewhere.
My impression was that the whole incident was being covered up, and SWORD certainly wouldn't notify any of the Avengers. They were in the process of weaponizing a dead friend of theirs. It's a more plausible situation for heroes not to show up than most situations like this in the MCU.

Dr. Strange is a more interesting case. Maybe he was exercising his agency as a character in a superhero sandbox, so he rejected the hook.
 
Well now.

On one hand, Wanda's finally dealt with all the grief that she's been carrying. On the other hand, she's trying to fast-track herself through magic via studying the Darkhold. That's certain to end well...

I like that Wanda has no realization that nuVision now has his old memories. I suspect that, much like Byrne's version of the character, he may not have the emotional attachment accompanying those memories.

Would have liked more Darcy, but you can't have everything.

The tease with the voices of the two boys crying for help gives me hope for a Young Avengers story somewhere later down the line.

And we can have Kathryn Hahn back as Agatha at some time in the future. Hahn is just too much fun in the role not to revisit at some later point.

Love Hahn so I'm glad to see her get a big mainstream role like this.

She has long been great but most recently her hilarious, sexy and touching lead performance as a divorcee who discovers MILF porn (and other things...) after her son moves out of the house in Mrs. Fletcher (written by the same guy who did Election!).

 
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I did also like how the conflict between Vision and nuVision was eventually resolved not by physical battle but with philosophical discussion.

Yeah that was refreshing as the MCU films are so often dragged down by extended and uninteresting battles at their climax.
 
The impression I got was that the mind control has been removed for everyone except Agatha, who actually had it put on her. It's a fairly cruel, but not too cruel, punishment. As regards the reason everybody else was busy, I presume we'll find out more in Falcon and Winter Soldier, but yeah, apparently we're still just a couple of weeks after Infinity War; the characters that are still alive and on earth probably have a lot going on. It would be fairly easy for Wanda to slip away, and SWORD and the FBI were trying to keep it as secret as possible, so everybody else being too busy to help makes sense to me.

Also I think at this point Marvel expect that folks know how their storytelling is going to go, and that they always leave things for future stories to pick up; so we definitely haven't seen the last of White Vision, Monica, Agatha, et al. Personally I'm excited because now we're a step closer towards the Nextwave : Agents of H.A.T.E. movie that everybody has really been waiting for. They also managed to make Darcy, the most annoying of comic relief characters, into someone who I'd like to see again; now that's a feat.

I like the spot that Wanda's been left in; she's in a good spot for a heel turn, with a solid and sensible motivation ("I want my family back. None of my friends helped me, but doing this will unlock the power I need; and I'm strong enough to control the Darkhold rather than being controlled by it") and lots of room to develop.
 
Personally I'm excited because now we're a step closer towards the Nextwave : Agents of H.A.T.E. movie that everybody has really been waiting for.

Honestly if they announced it I'd be super excited and almost every person I know in real life would just be confused by my excitement :B
 
For those wondering about unexpected appearance was that the media has been talking about through the whole run, it traces back to an old interview with Paul Bettany. He was obliquely referring to the fact that Vision would be in the show despite having died.

Actually it was more that the cheeky bastard was referring to himself.
 
I enjoyed the whole WandaVision thing. I think a rewatch of he whole thing in a couple of weeks might well be in order.

The finale was good, too. I'm glad they used the Ship of Theseus, rather than Trigger's Brush as he foundation for the philosophical debate. Amd I can't help but wonder if White Vision is now Vision Reborn, since he is made of the original body and has his memories restored.
 
With regards to Darcy, I wonder if Kat Dennings had some other obligation that prevented her from being on the set the whole time. The way they were talking about her near the end without her being there suggested it wasn't just a case of the people behind the show simply forgetting to give her screen time.
 
Amd I can't help but wonder if White Vision is now Vision Reborn, since he is made of the original body and has his memories restored.

It possible that he now has memories but no emotions due to the lack of an infinity stone. My understanding is that he was like that for a while in the comics.
 
It possible that he now has memories but no emotions due to the lack of an infinity stone. My understanding is that he was like that for a while in the comics.
I don’t really know much about Comic Vision. Avengers stuff was always too continuity heavy for me.
 
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