We won! (OGL)

[Akrasia]

D&D won’t change the OGL, handing fans and third-party publishers a massive victory

A full retreat by Hasbro and Wizards of the Coast

www.polygon.com

 

[sharps54]

Creators would be fools to continue the use the OGL.

 

[sharps54]

I mean if you have to use it temporarily that’s one thing but to not change to something else would be a mistake.

 

[Akrasia]

Yeah, I'm sure the smart folks will (continue to) do what they can to move away from the OGL.

But I still think that this victory is important. Not just for those who can't transition easily or quickly, but on principle.

 

[Spellslinging Sellsword]

OGL 1.0a & Creative Commons

Over the past few weeks you, the community, have made your voices heard. And we’ve listened. OGL 1.0a will remain untouched AND the entire SRD 5.1...

www.dndbeyond.com

SRD 5.1 CC-BY

https://www.dndbeyond.com/attachments/39j2li89/SRD5.1-CCBY4.0License.pdf

 

[sharps54]

OGL 1.0a & Creative Commons

Over the past few weeks you, the community, have made your voices heard. And we’ve listened. OGL 1.0a will remain untouched AND the entire SRD 5.1...

www.dndbeyond.com

SRD 5.1 CC-BY

https://www.dndbeyond.com/attachments/39j2li89/SRD5.1-CCBY4.0License.pdf

I thought they stopped using the term “race”?

 

[robertsconley]

It looking like UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!

 

[Teyrnon]

I'm trying to wrap my head around their decision to release the 5.1 SRD under the CC-BY-4.0 license. What is this supposed to accomplish for them?

 

[Fenris-77]

 

[TristramEvans]

 

[thebigh]

Would it be overly cynical of me to suspect this is not a surrender but a strategic retreat?

 

[TristramEvans]

 

[T. Foster]

Well, that certainly made for an interesting 3 weeks!

 

[sharps54]

Would it be overly cynical of me to suspect this is not a surrender but a strategic retreat?

No, no it would not

 

[TristramEvans]

Would it be overly cynical of me to suspect this is not a surrender but a strategic retreat?

That's totally fine.

D&D's market dominance has already been shattered

The ORC is still going forward

 

[Tulpa Girl]

 

[sharps54]

That's totally fine.

D&D's market dominance has already been shattered

The ORC is still going forward

Let’s hope.

 

[Tommy Brownell]

I'm trying to wrap my head around their decision to release the 5.1 SRD under the CC-BY-4.0 license. What is this supposed to accomplish for them?

Attempting to avoid a sustained boycott would be my guess.

 

[robertsconley]

There is still some mopping up to do like getting a OGL 1.0b with irrevocable in it and Ryan Dancey definition of what authorized meant. I am going to wait to do my blog post on it tomorrow so I can think the implications through.

 

[Gringnr]

Oh great, now the OSR will become even more insufferable, a thing I would not have thought possible to any great degree.

 

[robertsconley]

Oh great, now the OSR will become even more insufferable, a thing I would not have thought possible to any great degree.

 

[TJS]

Attempting to avoid a sustained boycott would be my guess.

Yeah and restore confidence in the OGL in a kind of roundabout way.

 

[TristramEvans]

Oh great, now the OSR will become even more insufferable, a thing I would not have thought possible to any great degree.

 

[JamesV]

I'm sure there will be a day where a future edition of D&D will close or restrict its rules, but isn't publishing the 5.1 SRD under Creative Commons admitting this version of the rules and previous ones by extension are largely beyond its reach to control?

If I'm understanding the terms of CC licences anyway?

 

[Endless Flight]

 

[robertsconley]

Yeah and restore confidence in the OGL in a kind of roundabout way.

OGL is probably dead going forward except for stuff like the OSR and Cepheus. Aside from hammering on Wizards, the license has been under a microscope and all its flaws have been highlighted. Coupled with the fact that more than a few folks were ready to take the plunge to use Creative Common or test game mechanics that can't be copyrighted, or roll their own. The OGL Humpty Dumpty has been broken and while pieces will be around, it won't be put together again.

 

[TristramEvans]

 

[TristramEvans]

 

[robertsconley]

Would it be overly cynical of me to suspect this is not a surrender but a strategic retreat?

Sure the authorization theory of the OGL 1.0a could be tested again. But the use of creative commons (CC-BY) means if Wizards fucks up OneD&D, it is D&D 4e and Pathfinder all over again. And perhaps the gesture is too late to prevent that from happening.

 

[Bunch]

I'm happy. This makes my life easier.

 

[robertsconley]

I'm trying to wrap my head around their decision to release the 5.1 SRD under the CC-BY-4.0 license. What is this supposed to accomplish for them?

Because they really don't want to test how far this go.

 

[sharps54]

I'm happy. This makes my life easier.

Maybe we can get back to talking about RPGs

 

[Fenris-77]

 

[JAMUMU]

I'm trying to wrap my head around their decision to release the 5.1 SRD under the CC-BY-4.0 license. What is this supposed to accomplish for them?

UwU we're so sorry gamers, please love us again

 

[TristramEvans]

Ladies & Gentlemen, this is a good day.

Enjoy the victories in life when they come, they are fewer and further than the battles.

 

[AsenRG]

Would it be overly cynical of me to suspect this is not a surrender but a strategic retreat?

No, no it would not

What S sharps54 said. But as we all know, "ufficient unto the day is the evil thereof"!

In other words, we can now party...and support the ORC!

 

[EmperorNorton]

"Please stop hating us."

 

[sharps54]

"Please stop hating us."

No

 

[JAMUMU]

They've gone full damage control, including trying to suck the wind out of ORC and Black Flag's sails. What will happen now? Will the factions remain? Who will survive? And what will be left of them?

 

[EmperorNorton]

No

I thought of including the no in myself but didn't want to it to look like I was speaking for more than myself.