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There's no need to start the PCs as newly Fallen, though, or have a large-scale plot. They can be established in Hom and furthering the goals of the Eighth Tribe, or persuing personal goals or vendettas. The party I'm running, some of them have larger goals tied to why they were cast out (unite...

Genre may be part of the problem. It's not traditional post-apocalyptic, not traditional fantasy, so won't appeal to purists of either genre. I like it, and post-apoc is very much not my thing. Possibly the implicit motivations are a problem too, but there's no reason the PCs have to be Fallen...

This seems to be very much a thing with Tribe 8. I'm running a game of 1st ed elsewhere, but have never played it - and neither have any of the players. Even the ones with the rulebook. From the on site discussion, lots of people own it, love the look of it, but never actually play it. Too...

Wow. And I thought the game where we tried to leave town and a portal opened up and dropped us back in the town square (over, and over, and over) was bad. :shock: