My final WotC purchase.

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Darrin Kelley said:
I sent for The Book Of Many Things tonight. It is the last book with new character and monster info before D&D 2024 is released. Which pretty much ends my dealings with new WotC product. The last hurrah for me.
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Darrin Kelley said:
I sent for The Book Of Many Things tonight. It is the last book with new character and monster info before D&D 2024 is released. Which pretty much ends my dealings with new WotC product. The last hurrah for me.
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I'm so sorry for your loss of hard earned money. By all accounts I have heard this book is pure drek.
 
I doubt we’ll see if but if they ever managed to get Top Secret, Top Secret SI, or Gangbusters up on DrivethruRPG I’d buy those. Aside from that there really isn’t anything I’m interested in as I don’t care about their post TSR content or the post Gygaxian D&D content. I’d buy a PoD of Gamma World 2E if offered as that was the version we played back in the day.
 
I'm tempted to get some of the reprint books in case I end up in a BECMI campaign (A real risk), but there's nothing else I want from them, especially with their recent pivot to AI art-like pictures.
 
StubbornMule said:
Everyday Heroes, which came out last year, is the closest thing that I'm aware of to it. There's also a Humble Bundle for it that ends tomorrow. Plenty of information on it and the team behind it on the Kickstarter page.
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They keep trying to make it sound like they made D20 Modern 2e but it 100% does not feel like D20 Modern. The whole thing that made D20 modern work was alternating stat based classes that had a choice of feat/talent on alternating levels you could freely multiclass. It made a level+class based system feel much less like a level+class based system as you weren't (outside of prestige classes) locked into some specific path in character development. Everyday Heroes abandoned that idea and just used standard classes which don't feel nearly as freeing.

Star Wars SAGA was still the true D20 Modern 2e. The only thing that was really lost was moving from stat based classes to concept based classes, but even that worked well in the context of Star Wars. Too bad that system has never been used as the basis to make D20 Modern 2e.
 
EmperorNorton said:
Star Wars SAGA was still the true D20 Modern 2e. The only thing that was really lost was moving from stat based classes to concept based classes, but even that worked well in the context of Star Wars. Too bad that system has never been used as the basis to make D20 Modern 2e.
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Gary Sarli's "e20" project sounded promising, but it crashed and burned pretty spectacularly.

On the main topic, depending on how you reckon, my last purchase of a product directly from WotC was in 2019 (PoD versions of I6, I10, and the Ravenloft Black Box) or 2016 (Curse of Strahd), and I've since sold the latter. I've picked up WotC product on the secondhand market--including a flurry of 3.5 and d20 Modern material last fall--but I currently own nothing they've done with a copyright date after 2012. :smile:
 
I also could not resist a physical Deck of Many Things. I'm anti-enthusiastic about WoTC and where D&D5+ is going, but it's a Deck of Many Things! I'll just have to adapt it to a system I'll use.
 
Fenris-77 said:
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Piracy does nothing to them, ultimately.

Starve them. Don't talk about their stuff, don't play it, don't introduce it to people. Just treat them as if they don't exist.

They're dependent on The Algorithm these days, and The Algorithm rewards all engagement the same. Take all of it away from them.
 
Ladybird said:
Piracy does nothing to them, ultimately.

Starve them. Don't talk about their stuff, don't play it, don't introduce it to people. Just treat them as if they don't exist.

They're dependent on The Algorithm these days, and The Algorithm rewards all engagement the same. Take all of it away from them.
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I was joking more than anything. I haven't bought a WotC product for myself in years. I have bought some as presents at the request of my kids, but that's different.
 
sharps54 said:
I doubt we’ll see if but if they ever managed to get Top Secret, Top Secret SI, or Gangbusters up on DrivethruRPG I’d buy those. Aside from that there really isn’t anything I’m interested in as I don’t care about their post TSR content or the post Gygaxian D&D content. I’d buy a PoD of Gamma World 2E if offered as that was the version we played back in the day.
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My understanding is those games reverted to their original authors (Merle Rasmussen for Top Secret, Rick Krebs for Gangbusters) so WotC no longer owns the rights and can’t re-release them. Same with EPT, Metamorphosis Alpha (apparently Jim Ward was told he could have either MA or Gamma World back but not both, and chose MA) and, presumably, Dawn Patrol. Boot Hill, Gamma World, Star Frontiers, and Amazing Engine are available because WotC still owns them. Not sure if they still own Alternity or not. They also still own Dragonquest (acquired from SPI) and Gygax’s Dangerous Journeys (acquired from GDW) but will presumably never re-release either of them. And of course their various license-driven games (MSH, Indiana Jones, Conan, Buck Rogers, Rocky & Bullwinkle) are also never coming back.
 
I find this such a non-issue. I think the last thing I bought from them was a tsr era pdf about 10 years ago.
I have picked up a few things second hand like 5e core books for my son.
 
I tend to buy D&D starter sets to give to toy drives as a way to get kids into the hobby, but otherwise my last purchases were some .PDFs of Dark Sun material and the Rules Cyclopedia about 5 years ago. Though I may break down during Drivethru's New Year/New Game sale and buy B2 Keep on the Borderland, just to see what all the fuss is about.
 
I haven’t bought a new-release D&D product from WotC ever (literally my last purchase was before they acquired TSR), but I do occasionally buy pdfs and PODs of catalog stuff. I know that by doing so I’m supporting the evil corporation that ruined D&D (after saving it from the other evil corporation that also ruined D&D after saving it from the private owners who mismanaged the business into the ground) but 1) I know my occasional $5-10 purchases aren’t really making any difference to Hasbro’s bottom line, and 2) if anything reminding them that there’s still a market for the stuff from 40+ years ago feels like good message to send them - if you released stuff that was more like this I’d be more likely to buy it.
 
since I will never play D&D et al in the foreseeable and probable future, I always bought said products on the Used Market. Used at local shops usually are either trade ins or shopworn. I am collecting them, not using them.
 
I think 3.0 was my last purchase, but somehow I ended up with a copy of 4th, so I think someone gifted it to me. It's free to any home from me, just haven't gotten around to digging it out from a box 300 miles away from my current location.

The library I run games at is asking me to run "DnD" as a second game and has even offered to purchase the books (to keep at the library of course), but I'm torn on having them do that. I'm inclined to recommend Worlds Without Number (which I'm WAY more likely to decide to run) but I get why they want "DnD" even though they have no idea that actually means. I also think they should hold off with a newish edition right around the corner.

As for Piracy, who said Piracy? I thought that was the Try Before You Buy Guy.
 
I think the last thing I purchased was the Sword Coat book because it had bladesingers in it and I wanted to see how it was done.
 
StubbornMule said:
Everyday Heroes, which came out last year, is the closest thing that I'm aware of to it. There's also a Humble Bundle for it that ends tomorrow. Plenty of information on it and the team behind it on the Kickstarter page.
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Thank you for that. I was interested in it for a friend that, for whatever reason, cannot seem to put down "D&D" so this might help them out. The products were a little bit pricy for a favour.
 
I did see Everyday Heroes at the store the last time I was there. It is a bullet stopper. It looks like it’s twice as thick as d20 Modern.
 
Darrin Kelley said:
I sent for The Book Of Many Things tonight. It is the last book with new character and monster info before D&D 2024 is released. Which pretty much ends my dealings with new WotC product. The last hurrah for me.
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Great minds. That was my plan as well. I've not picked it up yet, it's low on my game priority list.
 
I bought the Marvel Multiverse RPG core and Kang supplement, as well as preordered the Xmen book. Guess I’m still a shill.

Apparently I’m in the clear. While I thought the Multiverse RPG was from WOTC, turns out I was wrong. Hmmmm, go figure. Or maybe I’m just a shill for the big ear rodentia.
 
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I bought the core rules for 5e when they came out, nothing since. Before that I bought the core rules for 4e. I can't see myself buying anything from WotC in the future.

I bought a shit-ton of 3e, and quite a bit of 3.x, and we played the heck out of it. Since then my groups have moved in other directions, and when we did come back to that territory we used Pathfinder (not, IMO, much, if any, improvement over D&D 3.5) and then Pathfinder 2e (the best mechanics heavy 'D&D', IMO) instead. I may well not buy the new version of Pathfinder either - while it's a really well put together game, the degree of system mastery required to make a character that fits the game's assumptions about competence, etc. is too high for most of the people I play with (including myself some days). As WotC's D&D from 5e onwards seems to expect well-built characters but have this wishy-washy system they're an even less likely option.
 
While I do understand the current anti-WotC/Hasbro sentiment, if one of my friends wants to run the new edition, I'll buy the Player's Handbook. Because I like having and reading the rulebook for games I play.

Personally I've never actually stopped liking D&D. I got burned out running 3e and wouldn't run that edition nor Pathfinder again. If I want to run a D&D like game, I would just use Savage Worlds. But playing is a different matter. Any edition except 3e/Pathfinder is fine with me for playing. Even 3e/Pathfinder could be fine, as long as I'm not expected to do that dreaded plan your character all the way to level 20 thing.
 
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