David Johansen
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I don't even have a full head.
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I suggested this to my girlfriend but she told me to fuck off.In all honesty I feel like we should just let the mods do whatever they want.
If your views happened to line up with the views of Zak, people might question the possibility of either an agenda or mindless jersey tribalism.If I changed my title to "Zak saved D&D" as a "goof" would people be justified in drawing wider conclusion about my views on his general behaviour?
Say what you want about Pundit, you can’t say the same thing about One Horse Town, and he’s had plenty to say about Fox, dozing, and sock-puppeting.Didn't realize Fox had tried to smear Brendan, that's messed up.
I do believe Fox though that Pundit was clearly busted trolling Fox and his wife on Instagram posting bullshit as an alt under pics of his kid. Unless you are also buying Zak's claims that someone else was using his computer to post as Appelcline on Reddit and someone else just happened to be trolling Fox by cutting and pasting the exact same text from one of Pundit's frothing-at-the-mouth Tweets.
Pundy is a borderline personality suffering from apocalyptic paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
I say Occam's Razor is that they're all full of shit.
Not sure what it is about this hobby, which is social and based on collaboration, attracts these anti-social nutters. Without the net I suspect all of them would be haunting some FLGS during work hours smelling vaguely of ball sweat.
They don’t. No one believes your opinion on Gygax is an “Official Position”, just like no one believes Tristram’s opinions on Fox are an “Official Opinion” or spoken in the mod voice. it’s convenient to pretend that when someone doesn’t like what you say, can’t stop you from saying it, and so try to get you in trouble.Would it help if we were more clear about when we're speaking as mods?
I'll be honest, I just don't quite get why someone would think my views on Gary Gygax were an official mod position in the first place.
I'm actually against mod anonymity for several reasons.
First is practical. I'm not sure it would work anyway because of the difference in posting styles.
If someone gets an overly wordy mod ruling complete with sarcastic jokes and British English spelling, is anyone going to think it might be Endless?
Secondly, the lack of anonymity can be useful when people want genuine clarification of a mod decision. I know that I've had people ask me to explain stuff and that's fine. And if I made the decision I'm in a better place to do so than anybody else. I don't really see the need for TBP policy of "never ask mods to explain their rulings".
Good god, no. That gives in to the disingenuous fuckwads who pretend they don’t know when someone is modding when it’s convenient.Some of the mods use blue text when we make rulings. Would you like us to do that as a whole?
[ . . . ]Pundy is a borderline personality suffering from apocalyptic paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
You’re not wrong at all. Pundit was known for calling people “Swine”, smoking pipes, and being really really mad that the OSR guys didn’t like FTA. He may have blogged a political opinion now and again, but he wasn’t even remotely known for it.Maybe I am wrong. It was a long time ago.
Why, of all people, are you so eager to play the guilt-by-association game? You are Daniel Fox's biggest defender, but we extend you the benefit of the doubt. If I am going to become the person who shun people for working with someone years ago who had different political opinions than them, it might make sense for me to ban you for your connection to Fox.
That isn't going to happen, so don't take that as a threat, just a comparison.
TBF, I think there's probably less clearcut cases as well.Good god, no. That gives in to the disingenuous fuckwads who pretend they don’t know when someone is modding when it’s convenient.
Pundy is waaaay too insecure about criticism to be a narcissist.Narcissistic, probably, Borderline no. That's something quite different.
Gee, YA THINK? This whole tangent is embarrassing in its obvious transparency.I'll be honest, as someone who has butted heads with Tristram in the past: Gringnr, you are being kind of ridiculous.
You've always been fast to defend Fox every time he is mentioned. I don't think you are in any way being objective here. You accuse Tristram of having some vendetta, but the person who comes off as emotionally connected to this is you.
Wrong. He was known for his "views" as far back as 2006, and there's plenty of evidence of that. Period. It's not even debatable, it's simply a fact.You’re not wrong at all. Pundit was known for calling people “Swine”, smoking pipes, and being really really mad that the OSR guys didn’t like FTA. He may have blogged a political opinion now and again, but he wasn’t even remotely known for it.
That’s calculated revisionist horseshit.
Pundit’s the dictionary definition of a reactionary. He reacted against the Storygame movement. He reacted against White Wolf’s approach. He reacted against certain political ideas being expressed through gaming, and he reacted to a particular “side” undergoing a dramatic change.
Narcissism is driven by insecurity. As I understand, narcissism develops as a compensating process for coping with childhood abuse or neglect. Borderline is a different process but also based on coping strategies for childhood trauma.Pundy is waaaay too insecure about criticism to be a narcissist.
There’s a wee of space between “making posts on a blog” (fucking Xanga of all things), and being “known” for his political opinions.Wrong. He was known for his "views" as far back as 2006, and there's plenty of evidence of that. Period. It's not even debatable, it's simply a fact.
No shit, that's why I'm talking about the numerous posts by OTHER people, on OTHER sites, i.e., not his, by people calling him out as being a terrible person, as far back as the aughts. His attitudes were known and reviled, even way back then. Forums, blogs, etc. It's all there, it's all real. I'm talking about FFG's official forum, among others. Sorry you're wrong, suck it up. I mean, his ban from TBP, on which he made numerous politically charged posts, was in 2004, ffs. Someone is being revisionist here, and it ain't me.There’s a wee of space between “making posts on a blog” (fucking Xanga of all things), and being “known” for his political opinions.
You know, space as in not being remotely the same thing at all.
The "not amount of not getting it and not letting it go" that you have shown on this particular thread has been truly annoying to read through. I felt repeatedly as I read through this that you were just being an utter ass just to be an utter ass and drive the thread. What a waste of time, and yet you carry on.I will admit that I may not have been in possession of all of the relevant facts before charging into the "Tristram vs. Fox" debate. And for that, I apologize.
I can understand your feeling that way, I'm not entirely proud of my conduct here. I've stopped responding to Tristram, and I don't plan on responding to anyone else in this thread, either. But I did feel the need to set the record straight when CRKrueger quoted my post to tell demonstrable lies about it. But, yeah, I'm done here.The "not amount of not getting it and not letting it go" that you have shown on this particular thread has been truly annoying to read through. I felt repeatedly as I read through this that you were just being an utter ass just to be an utter ass and drive the thread. What a waste of time, and yet you carry on.
That isn't why he was banned. Seriously, not doing your research is what leads to the issue in the first place. It took me all of five minutes to find out that he was banned for making personal attacks, not politics.No shit, that's why I'm talking about the numerous posts by OTHER people, on OTHER sites, i.e., not his, by people calling him out as being a terrible person, as far back as the aughts. His attitudes were known and reviled, even way back then. Forums, blogs, etc. It's all there, it's all real. I'm talking about FFG's official forum, among others. Sorry you're wrong, suck it up. I mean, his ban from TBP, on which he made numerous politically charged posts, was in 2004, ffs. Someone is being revisionist here, and it ain't me.
While xxxx just gets a warning, you would normally get a suspension for a particularly egregious and blatant violation of Rule Zero.
But seeing as you're just getting off a suspension, this one's a ban.0) First and foremost, remember this: Don't make personal attacks. You can attack ideas, but don't attack people.
And, for those keeping score, I've tried to e-mail Nisarg to inform him of this sanction, but he's got the "Sorry! That user has specified that they do not wish to receive emails. If you still wish to send an email to this user, please contact the administrator and they may be able to help" thing enabled...
I never claimed he was banned for his views, only that he made political posts there, and that he was banned.. Sorry if I worded that poorly. To be clear, he was banned from TBP for being a troll and an asshole, which only underscores my point that his nature was well known even by the mid aughts.That isn't why he was banned. Seriously, not doing your research is what leads to the issue in the first place. It took me all of five minutes to find out that he was banned for making personal attacks, not politics.
(I've deleted the name of the other poster getting a warning because I don't want to drag in RPG.net users from over 15 years ago)
Also, if you look at his posts from that time they're mostly RPG related. The Pundit persona hasn't been fully fleshed out by this point. (Although he does have a strange obsession with ancient aliens). https://forum.rpg.net/index.php?search/2566672/
Do you not get that by claiming he was banned for his views rather than his behaviour you're objectively playing into his hands?
I'm happy to carry it on if you want (and there's quite a lot of posts I'd draw to your attention) but if you can't be arsed that's fine. But if you want to, indepth discussions of Pundit's 2004 political opinions are probably best switched to PM.I never claimed he was banned for his views, only that he made political posts there, and that he was banned.. Sorry if I worded that poorly. To be clear, he was banned from TBP for being a troll and an asshole, which only underscores my point that his natire was well known even by the mid aughts.
I could link posts from that time, from many sources (I think you'll find that I've done a fair bit of research on the Pundit, and yes I know that probably says as much about me as it does about him), showing that he was known back in the day for the same type of things he is known for now. People on other sites referred to him as a "hatemonger" over a decade ago, and I can show receipts. I am willing to post this if you request it. I am 100% willing and able to back up my statements, and I will if you personally wish it.
Otherwise, I'm pretty sure everyone is sick of my posting in this thread, amlnd I was planning to F off out of it.
The choice is yours.
Narcissistic, probably, Borderline no. That's something quite different.
What does Snidley Whiplash have to do with anything?I asked everyone to stop talking about the mustachioed one earlier. Let’s stick with the plan.
Ah, fair enough, I think I did misunderstand your post from that then. I thought you meant you'd deliberately try and disrupt someone else's game if they were using content warnings. Your explanation puts a completely different interpretation on that. My bad.I got brought into the under_score thread about Black Leaf , but TristramEvans shut it down before I could respond.
It was clear to me that Black Leaf was being sarcastic and not "demanding to play a pedophile cleric".
However, I think Black Leaf misunderstood and misstated my post. I said...
"I’d just redline everything, click every content warning and call it a day. I doubt any dial would ever get past half, but redlining them all saves the inevitable argument when a jackhole decides the needle went just over half, and the organisers get involved and find out what I really think of them."
I think it's pretty clear what I'm saying. If I were GMing in a convention with mandatory Content Warnings, I would label everything and declare my game the most extreme allowed by the system, just so I won't have to deal with the issues that come with people who want or "need" such things.
That's not ruining a game by acting in bad faith, it's declaring your game as unrestricted as a game can be at a convention, which you have a right to do. If we both actually did what we were talking about (which we wouldn't), it would his approach that was bad faith in an attempt to ruin a game, not mine.
No worries, I have no idea what under_score is on about, that was obviously a joke.Ah, fair enough, I think I did misunderstand your post from that then. I thought you meant you'd deliberately try and disrupt someone else's game if they were using content warnings. Your explanation puts a completely different interpretation on that. My bad.
And because I also didn't manage to reply, and don't think I mentioned it back at the time - your "paedo cleric" joke was definitely in bad taste.Ah, fair enough, I think I did misunderstand your post from that then. I thought you meant you'd deliberately try and disrupt someone else's game if they were using content warnings. Your explanation puts a completely different interpretation on that. My bad.
Did the "disgusting RPGs" thread just get straight up deleted?
My perspective. We have/had a list of awful games(thematically speaking mostly, maybe also rules). Someone screamed Nazis!! In the room/thread without being very specific. The thread was pulled. The poster flamed out because they couldn't yell Nazis at random. Life went on.Can someone give me a non-rule violating summary of whatever I missed
Here is his ragequit thread.Can someone give me a non-rule violating summary of whatever I missed
That is Internet Drama for 800, Alex.Can someone give me a non-rule violating summary of whatever I missed